TY all for the replyies this is indeed a great community, however i had to re-install

the system was just way to out of date, plus i got a view of the new graphical installer (dead easy to use), im on the default xfce desktop at 64bit (nice base to build on) wobling away with compiz, really enyoying this operating system. Manjaro Linux its just fantastic., lol.
Good Bye. ty all.