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Offline labatts

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installing using multiple hard drives
« on: 09. May 2016, 02:08:20 »
This has been bothering me for a while, so I thought I would go ahead and ask the question:

I built a custom steam machine (awesome, really just a desktop.  first time =]).  On this machine, I have a ssd drive with 250 gb, and a 2tb hard drive.  So, when I was installed manjaro, I was presented with 3 different options for install:  2 gui ones (forgetting the names), and the CLI one.  What I needed was for the OS to go on the ssd, and the home partition on the regular drive (lots of games). 

Neither of the gui programs let me do this.  One of them (i forget which) acted like it would, but actually would not.  The summary screen would show everything being installed on the same drive.  However, the CLI one worked like a charm, so I was happy.  But, I kept wondering... should I file a bug report?  After all, I believe one of these is Manjaro's own installer, right?

I am ever so grateful that Manjaro provided the CLI option.  Perhaps it is for situations just as my own.  At any rate, what do you think?

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #1 on: 09. May 2016, 02:13:29 »
No matter which distro I was installing, I always use GParted to create the partition on 1 or more drives that I want & then instruct the installer to use those partitions. I seems to me to be less likely to get things screwed up by an installer that way.
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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #2 on: 09. May 2016, 02:21:17 »
I wonder how it wasn't working for you with GUI (we got 2 GUIs installer, Calameres and Manjaro graphical installer) but I've installed Manjaro 4 times on my 4 machines and all of them are installed using the graphical installer. I just make partitions and mount them all using the installer, didn't even use gparted at all. The only problem I seem to see a lot in the installer is bootloader failed to install, most of the time with UEFI install. Yes you should file a bug report, but you need to be really specific with the problem so the developers know what's causing it. Good luck and welcome to Manjaro ;)

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #3 on: 09. May 2016, 03:05:59 »
I have similar issues with the recent ISOs, I tested XFCE 15.12 and LXQt 16.04.

When using the GUI, installation always failed when I used "manual partitioning", the error would be
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Failed to unpack image /bootmnt/manjaro/x86_64/root-image.sqfs
rsync failed with error code 11

Checksum was ok and I tried using different USB flash drives too.  Manual partition install was not a problem for me with older ISOs though.  Installation would work if I use the automatic install but I think this option can only install onto a single disk.

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #4 on: 09. May 2016, 03:39:55 »
I think people are misunderstanding.  They aren't simply separate partitions.  The gui does that just fine.  They are separate HARDDRIVES.  So, I guess, one partition on one hard drive, the second on another.  Neither one of them could handle this.

Because of this, I don't believe that using gparted would make a difference, because it wasn't the creation of the partitions that was the problem.  They could not handle pointing to two different partitions on different hard drives.

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #5 on: 09. May 2016, 03:42:21 »
Yes you should file a bug report, but you need to be really specific with the problem so the developers know what's causing it. Good luck and welcome to Manjaro ;)

Okay, will do.  Thanks everyone.

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #6 on: 09. May 2016, 05:21:38 »
I think people are misunderstanding.  They aren't simply separate partitions.  The gui does that just fine.  They are separate HARDDRIVES.  So, I guess, one partition on one hard drive, the second on another.  Neither one of them could handle this.

Because of this, I don't believe that using gparted would make a difference, because it wasn't the creation of the partitions that was the problem.  They could not handle pointing to two different partitions on different hard drives.
Yes, they can. I have 3 hard drives in my system. 1 120GB SSD for my /boot and /root, 1 1TB HDD for my /home, and 1 60GB HDD for my documents. :)

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #7 on: 09. May 2016, 09:08:22 »
I too run multiple drives with multiple partition.

When I eventually make the move to an advanced file-system like ZFS (BTRFS also fits) then I will nolonger need to bother with multiple partitions on drive.
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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #8 on: 09. May 2016, 12:15:59 »
I too run multiple drives with multiple partition.

When I eventually make the move to an advanced file-system like ZFS (BTRFS also fits) then I will nolonger need to bother with multiple partitions on drive.
Why? What's the difference between zfs and btrfs compared to other FS?

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #9 on: 09. May 2016, 13:30:53 »
I too run multiple drives with multiple partition.

When I eventually make the move to an advanced file-system like ZFS (BTRFS also fits) then I will nolonger need to bother with multiple partitions on drive.

Hm, well, you are making me want to retest the install to double check and make sure I didn't miss something (not sure what that would be though). 

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #10 on: 09. May 2016, 13:50:50 »
As I said previously, I always manually create my partitions using GParted from live media, then when using the installation software point the installation to the relevant partitions that I created.
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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #11 on: 09. May 2016, 13:56:57 »
Hm, well, you are making me want to retest the install to double check and make sure I didn't miss something (not sure what that would be though).
Did it recognize your live media (usb stick or dvd drive) though? It's really weird if it's not detected because as far as I know Linux will recognize anything plugged into it immediately.

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #12 on: 09. May 2016, 15:52:14 »
Why? What's the difference between zfs and btrfs compared to other FS?

ZFS is an advanced "free" everything future-proof filesystem, that btrfs, could only wish it could be, in a very, very hard nutshell.
...and until Linux embraces ZFS, (and vica-versa), Btrfs will remain a useless and jealously egotistical "copy-cat" endeavour of whatever, from whoever.
 Ouch eh ?
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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #13 on: 09. May 2016, 16:18:16 »
ZFS is an advanced "free" everything future-proof filesystem, that btrfs, could only wish it could be, in a very, very hard nutshell.
...and until Linux embraces ZFS, (and vica-versa), Btrfs will remain a useless and jealously egotistical "copy-cat" endeavour of whatever, from whoever.
 Ouch eh ?
That's harsh man  :D
I mean, why did handy say that he won't need separate partitions anymore by using zfs? I don't understand  :(

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Re: installing using multiple hard drives
« Reply #14 on: 09. May 2016, 16:34:22 »
That's harsh man  :D
I mean, why did handy say that he won't need separate partitions anymore by using zfs? I don't understand  :(

 Sry bud, I thought OpenMD with btrfs would actually be (technically) competitive with ZFS,  but u're right, it's a harsh competitive reality that i should not have joked about it, since it's not funny anymore.
 ? ;)
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