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Your Oldest Useful System
« on: 06. May 2016, 03:38:45 »
I'm posting from mine right now.
It's a Dell Optiplex GX620 that was built in August 2005. It was pretty amazing when new - Intel Pentium D 840, 3 GB of DDR2 RAM, SATA hard drive. It even has a floppy drive.
I got it off lease in 2008 and ran it with Windows XP until 2012 when it was replaced by an i5 quad core.
I have upgraded the video to use DVI (with an old Nvidia Card) and I plugged in a USB wifi dongle. Manjaro Xfce runs great on it.
I've attached it to an old widescreen Acer LCD from 2007.
It's a museum piece but too good to recycle.
What is the oldest useful machine you have around the house?

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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #1 on: 06. May 2016, 10:26:07 »
 Asus M2N68-AM SE2:  date:2008 : one of the most useful and upgradeable MB's I've seen.

It started life when I brought it home from work, (for remotely working when on call), back in early 2008.
 It began with an Athlon X2 (2.2GHz) with 1 G of ram, running Debian.
Much later, I upgraded it with 4 GB of ram, from another junker at work.

I recently upgraded the older AM2 CPU to an (AM3) AthlonII X3 Triple-Core(3.1 GHz). <- a $30 upgrade I picked up on amazon.
 This Motherboard will take everything from an old AM2 Sempron, or an AM2+, to am AM3 PhenomII X6 (6-Core), and it runs any Linux, or BSD, or OpenSolaris like a dream.

It's almost laughable, when you compare the longevity and upgrade-ability of some of these older Desktop hardware with the newer (purposeful obsolescent) Socket war's that Intel and AMD are playing these days, one year it's 1151, next it's 1150, then 1156, then back to 1151, no wait it'll be 2011 (v3), ??!!... or whatever. AMD does the same crap as well.

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Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M2N68-AM SE2 v: Rev X.0x
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 1801 date: 06/08/2010
CPU:       Triple core AMD Athlon II X3 445 (-MCP-) cache: 1536 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3100 MHz 1: 3100 MHz 2: 3100 MHz 3: 3100 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA Device 128b
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1680x1050@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 361.42
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #2 on: 06. May 2016, 10:57:55 »
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Machine:   Mobo: Gigabyte model: EP31-DS3L v: x.x Bios: Award v: F3 date: 04/09/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7300 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2667 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: radeon Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.1
Never upgraded CPU, neither disks (SATA).
I tried to put 4GB of RAM, but it was too unstable (maybe compatibility problem), I'm now with the original 2GB in dual mode.
EDIT: I added two fans two years ago, just to be sure it can survive with long jobs.
The VGA it's older but it's from a friend of mine, the original was a Radeon HD3445, if I'm not wrong. This has less OpenGL functionality but a faster chip (just a little).
Originally was a good PC, but with Windows XP it was really slow. Now I can run also Manjaro KDE Plasma 5 without too many problem.
At the moment I use Manjaro i3-gaps + compton.

EDIT: I've also a Sony VAIO laptop from 2003 (more or less), but it's not really useful, it works decently with Crunchbang or similar minimal system (512 MB of RAM and single core Intel CPU).
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #3 on: 06. May 2016, 11:59:45 »
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Machine:   Mobo: Gigabyte model: EP31-DS3L v: x.x Bios: Award v: F3 date: 04/09/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7300 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2667 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: radeon Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.1
Never upgraded CPU, neither disks (SATA).
I tried to put 4GB of RAM, but it was too unstable (maybe compatibility problem), I'm now with the original 2GB in dual mode.
EDIT: I added two fans two years ago, just to be sure it can survive with long jobs.
The VGA it's older but it's from a friend of mine, the original was a Radeon HD3445, if I'm not wrong. This has less OpenGL functionality but a faster chip (just a little).
Originally was a good PC, but with Windows XP it was really slow. Now I can run also Manjaro KDE Plasma 5 without too many problem.
At the moment I use Manjaro i3-gaps + compton.

EDIT: I've also a Sony VAIO laptop from 2003 (more or less), but it's not really useful, it works decently with Crunchbang or similar minimal system (512 MB of RAM and single core Intel CPU).

 nice, and yep,
the Intel LGA 775 were, and still are, another one of those enduring builds.  I have a similar (775) board, but with a Pentium D-830. When I find a cheap Core2-Duo/Quad that'll be it's final upgrade.

 It's interesting that they still make and sell a couple new Motherboard's for the 775-socket CPU's, and with 8-Gig DDR3 capability.-which is kinda neat. ;)
ASRock G41C-GS R2.0
GIGABYTE GA-G41MT-S2PT
 It's unfortunate however, that DDR2 ram is so ridiculously, and unfairly over-priced these days. but that's Father Time I guess ;)
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #4 on: 06. May 2016, 12:41:04 »
I have a Casio FX-770P (it is still functioning perfectly), which I bought in the beginning of 1986 when I was starting my course in electronics engineering at North Sydney Tech (now the University of Technology).

It is a cool thing, you could program in BASIC & have it do some wonderfully helpful things (the results of ohm's law when given any two known variables was one of the first things I worked out).

Here's are its specs:
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #5 on: 06. May 2016, 13:11:14 »
I have a Casio FX-770P (it is still functioning perfectly), which I bought in the beginning of 1986 when I was starting my course in electronics engineering at North Sydney Tech (now the University of Technology).

It is a cool thing, you could program in BASIC & have it do some wonderfully helpful things (the results of ohm's law when given any two known variables was one of the first things I worked out).

Here's are its specs:
 


That's going to be hard one to top handy.....30 years old and still functioning! :o


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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #6 on: 06. May 2016, 13:23:58 »
 


That's going to be hard one to top handy.....30 years old and still functioning! :o


Best regards.

I was just thinking the same thing, being that handy's Casio is still functioning.
 I had this (used): http://www.gelhaus.net/cgi-bin/page.py?loc:8bit/+content:EL-5200.html
when I started my Electronics Technology program in the early 90's. It was one of the first 2D Graphics plotter calc's, but, just as described in the link, the "membrane" within the bifold finally wore out a couple years later, so unfortunately, mine didn't last near as long,
 lol.

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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #7 on: 06. May 2016, 13:31:04 »
I like the LCD & the associated functions. Very cool AB. :)

I could have still had the odd Amiga kicking around, but I gave them away. I was no longer using, so... (As much as I loved them  :'( )
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #8 on: 06. May 2016, 14:29:09 »
I like the LCD & the associated functions. Very cool AB. :)

I could have still had the odd Amiga kicking around, but I gave them away. I was no longer using, so... (As much as I loved them  :'( )
Yes I gave away a nice Amiga 500 system to my wife's colleague - he had young kids and they had no computer at all. This was back in 1996 when I got into the Windows universe.

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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #9 on: 06. May 2016, 14:33:55 »
What amazes me is how bulletproof these 2005 era commercial desktops were. Over-engineered for sure. It was assumed 10 years ago that a desktop could be upgraded and maintained or at least run until its O/S was no longer viable.
Not so today. A lot of small form factor dsktops are just glorified laptops - no power supply, SOC instead of upgradeable video.

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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #10 on: 06. May 2016, 18:42:32 »
Cool talk about the Amiga. As use to be a salesman for Amiga computers for a couple of years. Owned original 1000,500,2000/Video Toaster & 3000.
Cool experiences setting up local TV stations here In Portland,Or. with Amiga 2000 + Newtek Video Toasters.
Even got sent to Alaska to Install 5 2000/Video Toaster systems for NOAA.

But my oldest is only 6 years old.

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CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3000 MHz 1: 2300 MHz 2: 1800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: radeon
           Resolution: 1680x1050@59.95hz, 1680x1050@59.95hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.7.1)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.1

But still rocking along with added a used 2nd 22" monitor. A recycled given 80gb SSD and added a Huion H610 graphics tablet to the setup.
Was the Last system I built from scratch back in 2010. No more chasing the Faster,New & Shiny for me.




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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #11 on: 07. May 2016, 12:13:09 »
Reading your comments about using very old computers then talk about having it upgraded reminds me of this funny scene in a popular British sit-com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27gqyV7al8

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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #12 on: 07. May 2016, 15:31:10 »
Reading your comments about using very old computers then talk about having it upgraded reminds me of this funny scene in a popular British sit-com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27gqyV7al8

  ;D 8)  haha yes, useful nostalgia, I sounded like my dad when he ranted about Cars and how: "...they sure don't build 'em like they used to eh?"  ;)  the most obvious is invariably the most elusive.
 The older Desktops,..., have seen it's days in certain aspects, but the comments also show they're still very useful.
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #13 on: 07. May 2016, 21:42:32 »
It's a 2009 self built desktop. Was a Windows XP that eventually got fully replaced by Manjaro KDE in order to support Linux campaign in my family. The desktop is now used by my sister more often than her Windows 7 laptop because it breaks too often.
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           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.6.3 (Qt 5.6.0) dm: sddm,sddm Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   Mobo: ECS model: H61H2-M12 v: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: 4.6.5 date: 01/04/2013
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-2100 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 12376
           clock speeds: min/max: 1600/3100 MHz 1: 1602 MHz 2: 1681 MHz 3: 1603 MHz 4: 1606 MHz
Memory:    No dmidecode memory data: try newer kernel.
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT216 [GeForce GT 220] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a20
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1024x768@85.00hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.96 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GT216 HDMI Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be2
           Card-2 Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.8-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet
           driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1083
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           Card-2: Ralink MT7601U Wireless Adapter driver: mt7601u usb-ID: 002-003 chip-ID: 148f:7601
           IF: wlp0s29u1u5 state: N/A mac: N/A
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           IF: wlp0s29u1u5 ip-v4: 192.168.1.10 ip-v6: fe80::2e0:4dff:fe04:b63e                                               
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           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: TSST CDDVDW SH-222AB rev: SB01 dev-links: cdrom                                         
           Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes                                                                           
           audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running                                                   
Partition: ID-1: / size: 451G used: 16G (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1                                                         
           label: N/A uuid: 37b07ba9-f2ad-4b95-8a97-9c306e94b768                                                             
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 9.01GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2                                               
           label: N/A uuid: d118e5cb-1adb-4db3-93e9-299479717fc2                                                             
RAID:      No RAID data: /proc/mdstat missing-is md_mod kernel module loaded?                                               
Unmounted: No unmounted partitions detected                                                                                 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 0.0:48C                                                         
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Info:      Processes: 170 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 1306.6/3906.3MB Init: systemd v: 229 Gcc sys: 5.3.0                         
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Re: Your Oldest Useful System
« Reply #14 on: 08. May 2016, 22:32:17 »
My one and only computer at the moment is an ancient Dell Precision M90 laptop circa 2006. At the time it was a top of the line $3k machine designed as a mobile work station. After owning it a few years, when the warranty expired, I popped it open and upgraded the video card to a GeForce Go 7950GTX from a XPS M1710 gaming laptop, and upgraded the CPU from a 2ghz Core2 to a 64bit 2ghz Core2 Duo. Then I upgraded the wlan card to an Intel Pro 4965, and boosted the memory to 4gigs. A couple of years ago I added a 750gig WD 7200rpm hybrid drive.

It still has some life in it. Since the prices of used CPUs from this generation have dropped so much, I plan on replacing it with a 2.33ghz Core2 Duo Extreme and take advantage of its overclocking capabilities, figuring I can get to at least 2.5ghz (hoping for closer to 3ghz). Then I'm getting a decent sized SSD drive, before I finally get rid of it sometime in the next couple of years.
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