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Applications for the next release?
« on: 03. March 2016, 04:22:56 »
I'm going to get the new iso out soon. There have been some doscontent in community about chosen apps (gedit - too heavy, midori - not keyboard friendly).

I would like to know if anyone has ideas of goos alternative apps.

Minimum requirements for text editor:
- syntax highlighting
- gtk3 (no gtk2 or qt)
- tabs are advantage, but not absolute necessity

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #1 on: 03. March 2016, 09:02:29 »
mp from aur seems very nice. It has cool curses interface for terminal, and has gtk/qt frontend depending which toolkit you have installed. But it lack tabbing, and configuring colors seems difficult. Otherwise very cool, very light app. Joe seems to have great potential too, but is for console.

 

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #2 on: 03. March 2016, 09:06:18 »
just wanted to mention mousepad-gtk3 from AUR.
pluma-gtk3 would pull in mate dependencies, but then you could choose some more MATE gtk3 apps.

browser: I don't know how keyboard friendly epiphany browser is, but xombrero defines itself as such. The question is whether it is up to date.
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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #3 on: 03. March 2016, 10:01:56 »
...There is mousepad-gtk3? Very interested!

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #4 on: 03. March 2016, 10:56:20 »
Okay, it is definately an option. It is a touch lighter than gedit. My only problem with it is that it does not recognize bash and dash scripts as shell scripts by default. I do prefer look and feel of gedit personally, but might go with this because of lightness.

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #5 on: 03. March 2016, 11:11:39 »
Users who don't like coding will prefer mousepad/leafpad look, coders will like gedit/pluma look.
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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #6 on: 03. March 2016, 17:28:24 »
Vivaldi browser is keyboard friendly, but in beta.


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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #7 on: 03. March 2016, 17:35:48 »
vivaldi is gtk2 :( , Chrysostomus is looking for gtk3 apps
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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #8 on: 03. March 2016, 20:55:47 »
I personally use scratch-text-editor (from Elementary OS) because I like that you can set it to instantly save changes (it backs unchanged version till you close the document). but I think it's gedit fork (at least they look very similar, lol).
Also, FF is super keyboard friendly with VimFX add-on (so is chromium with Vimium extension, but chromium sucks).

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #9 on: 04. March 2016, 05:07:14 »
Vivaldi looks quite good, but probably won't get included because of the toolkit question. I personally like chromium, but chromium-gtk3 is not yet production ready (does not play nicely with the dark gtk3-theme). Firefox does not have gtk3 option yet.

These would all be excellent browsers, I would prefer any of these to midori. They are not lightweights though.

On other end of the spectrum, there is netsurf, which is even lighter than surf. Thats gtk2 too though...

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #10 on: 04. March 2016, 06:34:11 »
I tried scratch-text -editor. I did not yet check the ram usage, but it seems okay. I like the cleaner interface of gedit though. It is still in the competition, but I'm leaning towards mouswpas-gtk3/gedit.

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #11 on: 04. March 2016, 06:35:14 »
Automatic saving ia cool, but might be risky with system files and code.

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #12 on: 04. March 2016, 11:10:16 »
Vivaldi looks quite good, but probably won't get included because of the toolkit question. I personally like chromium, but chromium-gtk3 is not yet production ready (does not play nicely with the dark gtk3-theme). Firefox does not have gtk3 option yet.

These would all be excellent browsers, I would prefer any of these to midori. They are not lightweights though.

On other end of the spectrum, there is netsurf, which is even lighter than surf. Thats gtk2 too though...

I doubt that many people will use netsurf. everyone is dependent of extensions and want to have nice look. I vote against chromium/chrome, because FF have to much advantages over it:
1) extensions can run external scripts
2) much less ram usage
3) ability to tweak it much more then chrome using about:config
4) nice skins
5) native layout customization
6) css based layout, which lets you to almost fully change browser look and functionality with stylish

the only real advantage that chrome/chromium provides, are:
1) speed
2) still supported flash player
3) better rendering.

but:
1) firefox beta/dev now uses Electrolys (you need to turn it on in beta though), which made it much faster, still slower then chrome, but now only for a little bit, and that's with all the advantages that FF provides.
2) you can use chromium's pepper flash with FF using chromium-pepper-flash-standalone and freshplayerplugin packages from aur.

If only stable FF is an option, then yea, MAYBE chromium would be better, FOR ME, but still I don't think that any lightweight minimal distro should use it, but if it is possible to include FF beta with electrolys, there is no point in using chromium really.

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #13 on: 04. March 2016, 11:11:48 »
Automatic saving ia cool, but might be risky with system files and code.
yea, but it is possible to turn it off in the settings, and as I said, it keeps backup till you close file by yourself.

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Re: Applications for the next release?
« Reply #14 on: 04. March 2016, 12:04:21 »
More advantages for chromium:
- native netflix support
- better sandboxing
- has gtk3 version (which is usable, but not production ready)

Also, for me it is much faster (as you mentioned) and more stable than firefox. But yeah, I have dropped it even though it is my personal preference, since it is not suitable for lightweight enviroment.

Yeah, very few people would use netsurf. Probably even fewer than midori, which is saying a lot. As said, current browser is pretty much a placeholder that user is expected to replace. Since there are so many different preferences for browser, and no browser is undeniably the best, I tried to choose a light alternative.

Once firefox gets ported to gtk3 I probably go with it. I read that it is in the works.