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« on: 09. January 2016, 19:34:41 »
365 posts :o :o have just been moved to a separate board 'Deepin' ^-^
Thank you @jonathon!
We now also have dedicated sub-forums for Awesome, Budgie, JWM and Netbook

May the 'Others'-board be a little uncrowded now, leaving space for new brilliant and crazy ideas to flourish! 8)
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #1 on: 09. January 2016, 20:03:35 »
i just moved all posts i could find to the bspwm, jwm, netbook, awesomem, and budgie subforums.
about 2400 posts...
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #2 on: 10. January 2016, 12:58:02 »
Wow, this must have been a crapload of work. Thsnks for the new bspwm board!

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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #3 on: 10. January 2016, 13:05:03 »
mayby future seeing , just for think .... no do :

make   4  QT-based GTK-based Tilings Box with the respective as childboard,

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dont know what will come, it gett also pretty long :p just a idea*
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #4 on: 10. January 2016, 13:10:26 »
My current thought is to have all spins with fewer than 1000 posts as child boards and only promote them once they gain that level of popularity. This will help keep the list to a manageable length.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #5 on: 10. January 2016, 13:18:37 »
Yes, the list is getting long 8)

Categories are a great idea, just the sorting is a difficult undertaking...
For example it always confuses me that OB is referred to as a tiling WM ???
Many, especially new users will also very likely not know if what they are looking for belongs to Gtk or Qt. I didn't for quite a while ... ;)

Maybe we could at least have two categories: DEs and WMs ?
'Gnome-based' would maybe also be a useful group.?
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #6 on: 10. January 2016, 13:25:29 »
If people don't know the difference between GTK and Qt, they won't know the difference between a WM and DE. :)
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #7 on: 10. January 2016, 13:35:07 »
Categorizing is a top-down approach. An extra sub-board for each edition is a bottom-up approach. It is difficult to successfully mix them. I would prefer bottom-up, because it requires no previous knowledge. If it gets too long I would advise to let only Community Editions on the main page and for each edition the user would need to click on Community Editions first.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #8 on: 10. January 2016, 13:36:39 »
Yup. The editions come with a suitable category built-in (i.e. their name). They don't really need any more grouping.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #9 on: 10. January 2016, 14:07:12 »
Yup. The editions come with a suitable category built-in (i.e. their name). They don't really need any more grouping.
The edition (if trying to define what it is) is a combination of variables DE/WM, init system, maybe other architectural categories, maintainer. At the moment there are only some editions which differentiate in DE/WM and init system.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #10 on: 11. January 2016, 11:01:13 »
i am a little confused by the "unmaintained" subsection.
should we put 90% of the threads in "other" into that category?
if it were up to me, i would remove this subsection entirely.

i like the idea to put all DE/WM subforums with less than 1000 posts as subforum into "other". that makes sense.

something else:
almost all DE/WMs have their own subsection now, except for lxqt and lxde. imho, lxqt and lxde are already really different and becoming even more different.
how about a new subsection for lxde (in "other")?
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #11 on: 11. January 2016, 11:14:49 »
Unmaintained is not really needed. If an edition is unmaintained there will be no new users who will look for its section on the forum and posts about it will simply get old.
Well, there might be new posts "When will be a new ISO available again?" Such post might be the only reason for Unmaintained section.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #12 on: 11. January 2016, 12:18:03 »
something else:
almost all DE/WMs have their own subsection now, except for lxqt and lxde. imho, lxqt and lxde are already really different and becoming even more different.
how about a new subsection for lxde (in "other")?

LXQt is what LXDE is moving to. They're not (supposed to be) different DEs.

LXQt is the Qt port and the upcoming version of LXDE, the Lightweight Desktop Environment.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #13 on: 11. January 2016, 12:36:46 »
yes, lxqt is supposed to be lxde's successor for the long term.
but even for the midterm, lxde will receive maintenance, because LTS versions are still released with lxde and need to get maintained. so, lxde will be around for a while.

if you have ever used lxqt and lxde, you clearly notice that they are different DEs, even if they are not supposed to be different. this is the reason i wrote
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imho, lxqt and lxde are already really different and becoming even more different.
lxqt has a different configuration center and configuration options and offers different default applications.

imho, they only have 2 things in common: a little bit of source code and both try to be a lightweight DE.

if you have still doubt, please ask other lxqt users like Esclapion.
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Re: new sub-boards
« Reply #14 on: 11. January 2016, 12:42:30 »
Also, plans can change; gtk2 might get forked and maintained, or LXDE ported to gtk3.
BTW, LXDE has a problem ATM, lxdm doesn't work. Solutions have been reported and also that they didn't work for some users. Recently I've built am LXDE ISO which booted into LXDM and I wasn't able to login with 'manjaro' 'manjaro' nor 'root' 'manjaro'. A topic worth disussing? Yes! Is it here off-topic? Yes, it is!
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