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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #45 on: 08. January 2016, 23:03:39 »
Well .. you have to create this file but is not simply.. try the old school   ::)

at the boot on livecd stop countdown and type
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xdriver=vesathen enter ... you now use driver vesa and not intel .. resolution in de is probably wrong but you can access at the de .. i hope :P
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #46 on: 08. January 2016, 23:48:44 »
Thanks for guidance!
I just booted the normal way and opened only the CLI installer and the terminal and did nothing else. Was lucky not to get screen tearing and managed to install the little bird.
I was just curious if editing intel.conf would work on live CD. Will write soon how I like the DE.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #47 on: 09. January 2016, 01:40:50 »
I think the desktop develops itself in the wrong direction. It is becoming a second Gnome. Maybe this saves some work for the developers, but it becomes less user friendly for new users. This is my subjective impression.
The good things: it is fast, it looks clean (maybe Compton is needed, because there are some dotted lines on the borders of white spaces), it is not broken after the first update.

One little bug: move window to another workspace doesn't work. On right-click on the icon on the panel gives the menu for move to another workspace but selecting a workspace doesn't have any result.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #48 on: 09. January 2016, 12:06:30 »
After some more testing I would like to tell about some other problems.
- When I start Nautilus with gksu I have an icon in the top-left corner where I can click and edit preferences. As user I dont have this icon and cannot edit preferences.
- nm-applet does not appear on startup (also not in process list), the WiFi connection works anyway.
- date format on the panel is not editable.
- how can one edit the number of workspaces?
- how can you edit startup applications?
- Arc-Dark theme is not well suited to run libreoffice: beauty requires sacrifices. ;)
- before changing the theme I will create a snapshot of my home directory, because I'm afraid to break it.
- task-list with text (not the Icon task list) has fixed width; when opening too many windows they do not have enough space on the panel.
- the Icon Task List does not have the settings to show only windows from current workspace.
- I would like to have an application launcher like gmrun on Alt+F2, I have no idea how to set it up. I would also like to have a shortcut for closing the current window.
- are there any plans to enable vertical panel again?
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #49 on: 09. January 2016, 17:23:18 »
All budgie feature are the same of gnome ( shortkut key etc.. ) if you want see setting , open system setting>keyboard>shortcut and configure (if not configurated) what you want .
For autostart application on startup open gnome tweak tool > startup application and add what you want .

Twak tool and system setting are the better gui to configure also you use dconf but not simple way  :)

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- When I start Nautilus with gksu I have an icon in the top-left corner where I can click and edit preferences. As user I dont have this icon and cannot edit preferences.
this not undestand  :( in my installation nautilus have te same menu ( user or superuser )

you can suggest another theme (icon and global) to change you can change easly to tweak tool

gmruns searching in goolge .. not know  :P.. and ok i see .. you can install it and customize the shortcut in system setting if you want ..

For the panel i hope re-add the vertical panel .. more distro have now included budgie in your repo so more request to feature is in progress..

The nm-applet .. i have to investigate .. in my system monitor i see , it run but no appear in the panel .. i have to investigate  where is the problem  ;)

edit : /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop need modification delete GNOME in NotShowIn magically appear..i need to modified nm-applet in upstream
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #50 on: 09. January 2016, 17:44:14 »
Thanks for understanding my lack of Gnome experiece, Stefano! Too much stuff to learn, I feel a bit like a year ago when I started with  Linux.

I want to show with the screenshot the difference between Nautilus opened from menu (top right) and Nautilus opened by terminal (bottom right) - you see the icon in the second file manager window top left corner.
The second thing I show is that in the terminal I am running Htop, filtering for nm-applet and get no results.

Edit: there is a little problem with adding nm-applet to startup applications. I found them in Tweak Tool, but I can only add there such applications which have a .desktop file. Maybe I need to create one in ~/.config/autostart/
Would it work this way? I would also like to add Compton this way.

Edit2: Why is there no possibility to create an new text file from within the file manager? ???

Edit3: I solved the problems with KEyboard shortcuts. My Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard has a button to enable F1-12 buttons, I needed to press it (like on some other DMs, too). Alt+F2 on Budgie works a bit unsatisfactory, however. I typed nm-applet and got nm-connection-editor. I think it launches the app which has most similar spelling, a bad decission, imho.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #51 on: 09. January 2016, 18:59:41 »
 :) :) :) lol also me not an expert in linux world  ;D

So for nautilus problem .. see with attention , in menu you have two item for terminal one is normal terminal other is root terminal . This is the difference : in your screenshot tou have opened a root terminal (you only show desktop icon ) and normal nautilus you see all icon

for nm applet ...
https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles/issues/102
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #52 on: 09. January 2016, 19:21:15 »
So for nautilus problem .. see with attention , in menu you have two item for terminal one is normal terminal other is root terminal . This is the difference : in your screenshot tou have opened a root terminal (you only show desktop icon ) and normal nautilus you see all icon
The file manager window bottom-righ was launched with sudo nautilus. The one top-right with menu item 'Files'. I will inspect the .desktop file of 'Files'. I don't have a Root Terminal open on the screenshot.

for nm applet ...
https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles/issues/102
Then it will be solved soon, I trust our devs. I already created a nm-applet.desktop in ~/.config/autostart Will reboot in a moment to see if it works.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #53 on: 09. January 2016, 19:29:56 »
The file manager window bottom-righ was launched with sudo nautilus. The one top-right with menu item 'Files'. I will inspect the .desktop file of 'Files'. I don't have a Root Terminal open on the screenshot.
Then it will be solved soon, I trust our devs. I already created a nm-applet.desktop in ~/.config/autostart Will reboot in a moment to see if it works.

Nm-applet solved in next update of budgie desktop 10.2.2-2  ;)

but sudo nautilus open a file manager in sudouser mode so you are root privileges  >:D
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #54 on: 09. January 2016, 19:56:35 »
Ok, I want to make clear that I would like to set some preferences in File Manager when I open it as user. I would like to sort first folders and the files, open with single click and such... I can do it when I open it as root. See, I have attached another screenshot. Bottom-right window is Nautilus opened from Root Terminal.

(You can also see on the screenshot that nm-applet is there. BTW there is a plank.desktop file in ~/.config/autostart - is it for making the user easier to install Plank Dock?)

Different question: Is there a way to get a choice when righclick on a file in Nautilus with which application to open the file? I would so much like to edit the config files from Nautilus.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #55 on: 09. January 2016, 22:24:13 »
My experiments with gksu resulted in a broken desktop. >:D
I don't know what actually caused it, but now the budgie-panel disappeares very often. I also lose the possibility to launch Ctrl+Alt+Del for logout dialog and need to shutdown by keeping the power button pressed.

What happened: I trie to launch gksudo nautilus with Alt+F2 dialog. Got Root Terminal, closed it. Opened Htop, launched Alt+F2 to get the name of the dialog (budgie-run-dialog if I remember correctly), I then accidentally pressed Alt+F1 (not used for anything) then remembered where the run dialog was and broght it to foregroung - it was a black field with ugly frame and no buttons. I only was able to close it with Esc. I wasn't able to launch anything, only to close all the windows an do a hard shutdown. Started again, launched sudo nautilus from terminal and created a file in /usr/share/application File Manager (Root) by copy and rename and edit properties. Launching it from main menu made the panel disappear and the desktop unresponsive. On next reboot tried nautilus from Root Terminal - no connection error or s.th. like that.

Should I create a new topic? Does anybody want to find out, what has gone wrong?

HA HA HA HA HAAAA I just inspected the /root directory (from Thunar on Xfce) in Budgie file system aaanndd it is empty, only the Desktop folder is there. Never had this before.

In such a situation a btrfs snapshot would have saved me from reinstalling, but I did not care to make it, because it was a play and test system anyway.
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #56 on: 09. January 2016, 22:53:49 »
I am on a smartphone but in all my iso i expext that... root is empty yes..  C:-)
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #57 on: 09. January 2016, 22:58:06 »
I am on a smartphone but in all my iso i expext that... root is empty yes..  C:-)
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #58 on: 09. January 2016, 23:01:42 »
You guessed right, Stefano! ;D

My friend   ;D
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Re: [Testing] Manjaro Budgie 16.01 with budgie V10.2.2
« Reply #59 on: 10. January 2016, 22:29:03 »
I was totally wrong about empty /root, it could not have been the problem.
I reinstalled nautilus and deleted the modified org.gnome.nautilus-root.desktop which had Exec=gksu nautilus
(I also installed nautilus-actions and nautilus-open-terminal. Don't know what this will do.)
After this reinstall the system seems to be more stable. I guess that my change of preferences in nautilus launched as root did somehow break the system. It might be for a reason that these preferences for Nautilus are disabled for the regular user and that they are enabled for root might be the devs forgot to disable them.

I tried to add Compton to startup, but it doesn't start. The terminal gives:
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[eugen@manjaro ~]$ compton -b
libGL error: Version 4 or later of flush extension not found
libGL error: failed to load driver: i915
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[eugen@manjaro ~]$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: intel
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.79hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 11.1.0
I did sudo modprobe i915 but compton refuses to launch with the same error message.
This might also have s.th. to do with the crashes. For now I have no crashes. Let's see how it continues.
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