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I'm happy to announce another review of Manjaro 15.12 (Capella)!

Packages of the new major version of PHP have been released into the testing and unstable repositories. Besides the new PHP 7 features there are the following packaging changes. In general the package configuration is now closer to what was intended by the PHP project. Also refer to the PHP 7 migration guide for upstream improvements.

Removed packages

 - php-pear
 - php-mssql
 - php-ldap:   The module is now included in the php package
 - php-mongo:  The new php-mongodb might provide an alternative even though it is not a compatible drop-in replacement
 - php-xcache: Consider using the included OPcache and optionally APCu for user data cache
 - graphviz:   The PHP bindings had to be removed

New packages

 - php-apcu-bc: Install and enable this module if the apc_* functions are needed
 - php-mongodb

Configuration changes

 - open_basedir is no longer set by default
 - openssl, phar and posix extensions are now built in
 - php-fpm does no longer provide a logrotate configuration. Instead syslog/journald is used by default
 - php-fpm's service file does no longer set PrivateTmp=true
 - The configuration and module of php-apache have been renamed to php7_module.conf and libphp7.so

Beside the PHP 7 changes we also added some fixes to Plasma 5 and Budgie. Some additional fixes went into our graphical installers.

Since whe have some routing issues within networkmanager-openvpn, we are using now a development build of this packages. Any feedback on that would
be great. See also: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753578

Archlinux upstream fixes are now from: Sun Jan 3 10:25:15 CET 2016.

It is always good to check for updated packages, even we don't notify you about them. As usual people using our testing branch will help us to get snaps over to our stable branch almost smoothly. For notifications on daily bases please take a look at our mailing list: https://lists.manjaro.org/pipermail/manjaro-packages/

Kind regards,
Philip Müller and the Manjaro Development Team

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:: Current supported kernels

 - Linux310 3.10.94
 - Linux312 3.12.51
 - Linux313 3.13.11.32
 - Linux314 3.14.58
 - Linux316 3.16.7.21
 - Linux318 3.18.25
 - Linux319 3.19.8.12
 - Linux41  4.1.15
 - Linux42  4.2.8
 - Linux43  4.3.3
 - Linux44  4.4-rc7

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:: Package changes

 - testing community i686:  61 new and 58 removed package(s)
 - testing community x86_64:  61 new and 58 removed package(s)
 - testing extra i686:  61 new and 60 removed package(s)
 - testing extra x86_64:  61 new and 60 removed package(s)

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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #1 on: 03. January 2016, 15:07:15 »
I still have issues with VPN routes due to networkmanager 1.0.9-1.0.10 versions and this networkmanager-openvpn 1.0.9 version doesn't solve my VPN issue. For now I will keep using networkmanager[-openvpn] 1.0.8 version and ignore new versions until VPN issue is solved.

My /etc/pacman.conf file has this line:
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IgnorePkg = networkmanager networkmanager-openvpn

 I guess when networkmanager-openvpn reaches 1.0.10, it might be solved the VPN issue.

Edit:

It seems issue with networkmanager-openvpn was fixed: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47535. Wait until a new package is released. I guess they will release another networkmanager package.
« Last Edit: 05. January 2016, 22:35:25 by jetm »

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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #2 on: 03. January 2016, 15:28:57 »
For me the issue with so called Cisco AnyConnect compatuble VPN (openconnect) is still the same or even a bit worse. On Fluxbox, after I start a connection I cannot start any othe application from menu or Alt+F2. Even after I disconnect I cannot start anything. Ctrl+Alt+Del gets me logged out and after logging in I can start anything. I will check on Xfce in a minute.
Edit: Still on Fluxbox, I cannot reproduce the issue. I can launch applications after I disconnected from VPN, no nee fot relogin. But I cannot, as I reported before, launch anything while connected to VPN (openconnect).

Edit2: Now on Xfce, I can launch any application while connected to VPN. So, either a Fluxbox or a OpenRC problem. Will install vpn stuff on LXQt and see.

Edit3: Tested on LXQt, same behaviour as on Fluxbox, so likely an OpenRC issue. On LXQt I can reproduce the more severe problem, that I cannot launch anything after having connected to VPN. Disconnecting doesn't help. I cannot even log out, although I assigned a keyboard shortcut for lxqt-leave --logout. This is an LXQt issue I think. I think this severe issue comes when you connect to VPN first time. Without the ability to log out I cannot test if this would happen second time or be more like on Fluxbox.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #3 on: 03. January 2016, 16:01:45 »
Good update, thanks Team.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #4 on: 03. January 2016, 19:12:51 »
Ok, thx for the feedback. I'll downgrade all networkmanager packages to v1.0.8 until a proper fix is there.

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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #6 on: 03. January 2016, 20:19:30 »
Smooth update. Thank you.

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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #7 on: 03. January 2016, 20:23:14 »
For me the issue with so called Cisco AnyConnect compatuble VPN (openconnect) is still the same or even a bit worse. On Fluxbox, after I start a connection I cannot start any othe application from menu or Alt+F2. Even after I disconnect I cannot start anything. Ctrl+Alt+Del gets me logged out and after logging in I can start anything. I will check on Xfce in a minute.
Edit: Still on Fluxbox, I cannot reproduce the issue. I can launch applications after I disconnected from VPN, no nee fot relogin. But I cannot, as I reported before, launch anything while connected to VPN (openconnect).

Edit2: Now on Xfce, I can launch any application while connected to VPN. So, either a Fluxbox or a OpenRC problem. Will install vpn stuff on LXQt and see.

Edit3: Tested on LXQt, same behaviour as on Fluxbox, so likely an OpenRC issue. On LXQt I can reproduce the more severe problem, that I cannot launch anything after having connected to VPN. Disconnecting doesn't help. I cannot even log out, although I assigned a keyboard shortcut for lxqt-leave --logout. This is an LXQt issue I think. I think this severe issue comes when you connect to VPN first time. Without the ability to log out I cannot test if this would happen second time or be more like on Fluxbox.

That's no openrc issue, rather than the 'beauty' of systemd mission creep showing.

openvpn PKGBUILD has this:

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    --enable-systemd

So recompiling the package with

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--disable-systemd
would solve the issue.

That said, without help, I alone cannot and will not maintain almost an entire repo with deactivated systemd features.

https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=26749.60

Things may brighten when a build server is available. Atm, its mission impossible if we want a current systemd free system.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #8 on: 03. January 2016, 20:30:46 »
@artoo, I highly appreciate your explanation. Then it is up to upstream developers to make their software more open.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #9 on: 03. January 2016, 20:32:04 »
@artoo, I highly appreciate your explanation. Then it is up to upstream developers to make their software more open.

Good luck trying to get arch people to deactivate it. Will be utter failure, my crystal ball told me. :(

PS, Exactly the reason why debian lost devs, who went to start devuan.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #10 on: 03. January 2016, 20:41:37 »
A practical lesson about the controversy. Will draw my conclusions.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #11 on: 03. January 2016, 20:44:07 »
A practical lesson about the controversy. Will draw my conclusions.

You get a glimpse if you eg run:

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yaourt -S --depends libsystemd
yaourt -S --depends systemd

Its far worse than most users would expect.
I'd be  a full time job the remove the stuff with current infrastructure.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #12 on: 03. January 2016, 21:05:53 »
And we saw on little example (buildiso on btrfs) yesterday that sometimes it is good to have an alternative system. I will send a small donnation with "OpenRC" as a comment.
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #13 on: 03. January 2016, 22:20:40 »
sings (in C#) .. 'can two Borg cubes exist in the same space and time?' ... using Flyspray helps with the bugs (any chance it can be used with sqlite?)
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Re: [Update] 2016-01-03: networkmanger-openvpn, Budgie 10.2.2, PHP 7.0.1
« Reply #14 on: 03. January 2016, 22:33:40 »
sings (in C#) .. 'can two Borg cubes exist in the same space and time?' ... using Flyspray helps with the bugs (any chance it can be used with sqlite?)

A fitting slogan to systemd cabal would be "resistance is futile", while the opposition will loudly say, "No, it is not, never will be" ;)

PS, I could wrap it in C# code, but that just another can of worms, using MS.net.