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Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« on: 15. September 2015, 14:41:55 »
Hi,

Great that Manjaro now is able to run on a even more light DE: Fluxbox!

I tried to run it in LXDE, but I missed the lack of printer functionality, so I had to let go. But now I tried the Fluxbox-Manjaro in the live DVD environment, to see if improvements have been made regarding printing; I found out is has, although not completely.

A few missing elements I discovered; let me put it summarized:

1. Improvements of default installed basic printer elements and printer enabling have been made, but still I cannot install my Samsung ML 1640 laser printer; see also my thread under Manjaro LXDE.

2. The pamac package manager is quite different from that of LXDE and XFCE: it misses so much apps, e.g. Master PDF Editor and WPS Office, just to name some of them.

3. The menu system is a rather complex constellation of sub-sub-sub-(etc.)menu's, in stead of a menu button with main categories.

For me nr. 1 and 2 are most important: I cannot do without. Nr. 3 I could live without.

Please let me know if you have plans to develop one or more of the three requests, or show me how to solve these, if possible.

Many thanks in advance,

paulus
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #1 on: 15. September 2015, 15:06:34 »
The samsung driver is still not in AUR build it Robs way
I don't think AUR is enabled by default now for safety reasons as it can easily break your system just turn it on.
The menu is how it should be fluxbox was never designed any other way if you want a menu button install lxpanel  put   lxpanel &    in flux box start menu in home folder, then hide fluxbox panel in fluxbox settings panel then you are basically back to LXDE
I can put a request in arch for you for the driver I'll do that now just to remind them
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #2 on: 15. September 2015, 15:18:56 »
The samsung driver is still not in AUR build it Robs way
I don't think AUR is enabled by default now for safety reasons as it can easily break your system just turn it on.
The menu is how it should be fluxbox was never designed any other way if you want a menu button install lxpanel  put   lxpanel &    in flux box start menu in home folder, then hide fluxbox panel in fluxbox settings panel then you are basically back to LXDE

Hi mandog,

Thanks for replying!

Regarding 1: still no solution.
Regarding 2: can be solved by turning it on: great!
Regarding 3: Ok, I accept that, and it can also be met by adding items to the "dock" at the left side.

It remains a pity that printing is still so hard for Manjaro, but so it is, unfortunately. :(

Now I now what to expect: thank you! ^-^

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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #3 on: 15. September 2015, 15:23:10 »
I've put a request for the print driver for you just wait and see what happens
Its not manjaro these are commercial closed source drivers Epson is the same I was lucky as they are there after the AUR move but its best to have the correct drivers.
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #4 on: 15. September 2015, 15:41:08 »
I've put a request for the print driver for you just wait and see what happens
Its not manjaro these are commercial closed source drivers Epson is the same I was lucky as they are there after the AUR move but its best to have the correct drivers.

Thank you for putting a request for the print driver!

If it's not a specific Manjaro matter, how then is it possible that printing with Samsung ML-1640 works out of the box in all (*)Ubuntu-derivatives?

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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #5 on: 15. September 2015, 15:50:41 »
Because ubuntu source the drivers from Samsung arch does not they come from AUR,  there are + and - in all distros the driver for my printer took over a Day to source using Debian and then the print options did not work and the scanner I won't go into that.
I know sometimes its a pain but unfortunately that is Linux for you.
I'll check if I get any replies and keep you informed.
 
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #6 on: 15. September 2015, 16:35:48 »
Thank you, mandog!

You explained why it is not possible to install the printer: this made it clear to me.

I then just have to wait for the driver, before I can use this nice Manjaro-version. :-\

Again: thanks for keeping an eye on it: I just await your good news! 8)

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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #7 on: 15. September 2015, 19:13:37 »
Hi paulus!
Have a look at this little video https://youtu.be/C1H_cC3c2ng?t=29m30s
This shows how to achieve a menu the way you like it, I think...
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #8 on: 15. September 2015, 23:07:50 »
Hi oberon!

Thank you for pointing out to indeed a good solution for getting a more complete menu! ;D

I also checked out the possibility to add AUR to pamac: that worked also very well!

The last thing, but also the main thing, is the functionality of my Samsung ML-1640 printer. I hope this will be fixed soon. If so, then I can start to install this nice Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64, which is such a good work!

My compliments on that, oberon, as I think that you are the creator of it! O:-)

So only one step to go and then I could start with Manjaro Fluxbox; I hardly can wait!

Again: thanks for helping, 2 of the 3 hindrances have already been moved out of the way: that sounds promising for erasing the final barrier!

Kind regards,

paulus

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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #9 on: 16. September 2015, 02:19:32 »
Just to keep you up to date I was requested to give the download link which I have done
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #10 on: 16. September 2015, 11:08:21 »
I've put a request for the print driver for you just wait and see what happens
For the future I would really love to know where/how you do that!  :)
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« Reply #11 on: 16. September 2015, 12:42:01 »
For the future I would really love to know where/how you do that!  :)
Of course  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=38  You have to be a member and logged in
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #12 on: 16. September 2015, 12:46:16 »
I got a reply this morning they say this is the one to use and looking at the comments on AUR others are using it as well https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/samsung-unified-driver/         samsung-unified-driver 1.00.35-1  So this should work hopefully 
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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #13 on: 16. September 2015, 13:24:16 »
I got a reply this morning they say this is the one to use and looking at the comments on AUR others are using it as well https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/samsung-unified-driver/         samsung-unified-driver 1.00.35-1  So this should work hopefully

Nope, I just installed this driver and it did not work! :(

Anyway: thanks for your effort.

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Re: Missing functionality in Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1-x86_64
« Reply #14 on: 16. September 2015, 14:01:05 »
I don't know what the problem is then that is the official driver on the samsung site http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/ML-1640/XBG
Sorry can't help any more. I think you need to list what you have installed printer wise you don't need manjaro printing software, you don't need HP print software, foomatic, just  cups libusb-compat  libxml2  sane, + system-config-printer that is the dependencies listed  make sure you click on the server button and connect to server it will ask for a password make sure you use the correct one. after that click on add printer,
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