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[SOLVED] network authentication problem
« on: 11. May 2015, 10:43:38 »
The 2nd edition of my little i3-spin is more or less ready now but I still have one little issue here:
When I try to connect to my wifi here I am asked for authentication.
But when I enter the CORRECT network passkey the message appearS again and I will not be connected.
I have tried with another network, too...
Am I missing a package?
I have this network set at the moment (same as in xfce-minimal):
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## Network
netctl
networkmanager
networkmanager-dispatcher-ntpd
openresolv
plus
network-manager-applet

thank you for your help
« Last Edit: 17. May 2015, 02:17:51 by oberon2007 »
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #1 on: 11. May 2015, 11:30:27 »
I get these issues with my own installations too. On one installation I have networkmanager, on another wicd, and the funny thing is that the networks that work with the former one are not working on the latter, and the networks that work with the latter are not working with the former. Moreover, updates occasionally change the affected spots, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse.

By now, I have become used to setting up the connections from command line. I run around a lot and I use plenty of hotspots, so the problems are frustrating, and by doing iw dev and dhcpcd from command line seems to be the fastest workaround for now.

To me it seems that some scripts connected to wicd and networkmanager need updating, or if they have been updated, then they were updated wrongly. I am not the person to fix them.
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #2 on: 11. May 2015, 21:07:22 »
An idea anyone??
I have meanwhile double checked the package list with the first version of i3x. Its practically identical ... still wifi-authentication works with the old one and not with the new version ???
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #3 on: 15. May 2015, 10:13:19 »
This is really weird, folks! Can anyone help with this?
I have now tried kernels 3.18, 3.19 and 4.0
Same problem for all.
But its working with xfce and I don't see any difference in packages.
Its also working fine on my other computer.
What the heck can that be??
Wifi Network Adapter is an Atheros AR9462
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #4 on: 15. May 2015, 10:46:48 »
After reading this http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=35160 I have tried disabling ipv6 to no avail.
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #5 on: 15. May 2015, 20:15:00 »
Here's what netctl has to say... not much actually ???
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[manjaro@manjaro-i3x ~]$ systemctl status 'netctl@wlp2s0\x2dHer_Majesty_lives_here.service'
● netctl@wlp2s0\x2dxxx.service - Automatically generated profile by wifi-menu
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/netctl@wlp2s0\x2dxxx; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2015-05-15 18:06:08 UTC; 28s ago
     Docs: man:netctl.profile(5)
  Process: 4395 ExecStart=/usr/lib/network/network start %I (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
 Main PID: 4395 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[manjaro@manjaro-i3x ~]$ journalctl -xe
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #6 on: 15. May 2015, 20:48:10 »
I take from an earlier thread that you do not have direct access to the wireless router. If you did, I would suggest turning off encryption until you can get it working without it. It's a whole lot easier to troubleshoot an unencrypted network than an encrypted network. Kill the Internet connection for safety while doing this, of course. The router admin page should password protected, so the risk of an over the air intruder doing anything is low.

You could even set up a small unencrypted test network that does not have any access to the Internet. All you need is a wireless access point or router. You can even do it with another wireless equipped PC, but a wireless router would be best. I keep a couple of old routers stashed away for just such an eventuality.

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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #7 on: 15. May 2015, 20:53:17 »
I have another network to try. A mobileWifi.
My main goal here is not to get a connection but to nail down the reason for the issue...
So, will try to figure out how I can turn off encryption in that mobileWifi... then what?
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #8 on: 15. May 2015, 21:02:50 »
I have another network to try. A mobileWifi.
My main goal here is not to get a connection but to nail down the reason for the issue...
So, will try to figure out how I can turn off encryption in that mobileWifi... then what?

If you are talking about Internet access using a cell network modem, you can't turn off encryption that I know of. It's built into the modem on the model I use.  Mine plugs into a router and is not managed by any PC, so I can't help with that.
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #9 on: 15. May 2015, 21:09:39 »
I see you have networkmanager installed if that is running it is blocking netctl somehow, had that problem some time ago too when I installed manjaro on my notebook.
Try disabling one of them and make sure they are not running at the same time. Maybe that fixes your problem.

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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #10 on: 15. May 2015, 21:20:17 »
Hm. So: Its one of these mobileWifi things I have here with its own SIM-card. I was able to switch Encryption and authantication off on that one and like that I can connect without problem. It seems to be authentication that does not work. (I cannot set it to open with encryption, that not an option)
Have uninstalled netctl. That didn't help either.
Also not a problem on the other computer with the same live environment as I said.

edit Same thing the other way round: disabled networkmanager and reinstalled netctl, same error when trying to connect with password...
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #11 on: 15. May 2015, 21:34:42 »
Here's what netctl has to say... not much actually ???
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[manjaro@manjaro-i3x ~]$ systemctl status 'netctl@wlp2s0\x2dHer_Majesty_lives_here.service'
● netctl@wlp2s0\x2dxxx.service - Automatically generated profile by wifi-menu
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/netctl@wlp2s0\x2dxxx; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2015-05-15 18:06:08 UTC; 28s ago
     Docs: man:netctl.profile(5)
  Process: 4395 ExecStart=/usr/lib/network/network start %I (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
 Main PID: 4395 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[manjaro@manjaro-i3x ~]$ journalctl -xe
No journal files were found.
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Remove netctl, it only works with systemd.
It is systemd specific.

Edit: Granted you use openrc of course. I mixed up threads, I think it was you who had problems with udev.

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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #12 on: 15. May 2015, 21:55:31 »
Did you open up the Network Manager (nm-applet) and
Select Edit Connections >  Wifi > Edit > Wi-Fi Security and view the password.

Maybe, just maybe the password is messed up.

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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #13 on: 15. May 2015, 22:20:03 »
@artoo: Nono, I am on systemd. Anyway, removing netctl didn't help
and @herbie643: No, checked that. pw is entered correctly and with the other wifi and its correct pw it would also not connect... ???
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Re: network authentication problem
« Reply #14 on: 15. May 2015, 22:37:26 »
Now that you use networkmanager could you give us the output of it ?