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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #30 on: 14. June 2015, 22:58:39 »
Thanks for the minimal net install, official release is becoming just absurd in size.

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thanks. i agree.
but remember the goal of manjaro: a user-friendly, fully working and preconfigured system.

if you want to install only the stuff you choose on your system, you should install arch linux instead of manjaro. installing arch is more work than installing manjaro net edition, but not much more...


just a warning:
things will change with manjaro 0.9 (or a little later): the CLI installer will be dropped. thus (the current GUI installer) will get dropped, too. this will reduce maintenance work for developers.
i am not sure, whether there will be a net-edition. i or somebody else might create one: with a minimal DE on the livecd and calamares as GUI installer.
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #31 on: 15. June 2015, 09:22:28 »
I hope thus won't be dropped before calamares has proper uefi and encryption support. Having both qt and gtk option for installer has been great, but it must take crapload of resources to maintain two.

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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #32 on: 15. June 2015, 14:45:24 »
you are right. calamares has not reached feature parity with thus and CLI installer. this is the reason manjaro 0.9 (with calamares) got delayed even further and thus and the CLI installer received updates, bug fixes and new features.

calamares gets developed and maintained by blue systems. this is a company, which pays a guy to develop calamares. calamares is a standalone general installer for all linux distributions: http://calamares.io/
the manjaro team contributed to the calamares' development, especially in the beginning. also, the custom manjaro graphics and plugins are developed by the manjaro team.

so, as soon as calamares supports all the features of thus (or even more), manjaro will start to use calamares and drop thus (and probably the CLI installer). this will result in much less overall work for the manjaro developers.
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #33 on: 27. June 2015, 17:48:20 »
i have just uploaded an updated version, which was built with the latest manjaro-tools 0.9.9. the package lists in the ISO profile changed considerably.
this includes some fixes for manjaro 0.8.13 and some new packages.

i am thinking about including wmware support and some packages (like reiserfs, lvm2, ...) again. this would decrease the amount of maintenance work quite a bit for the future (and it would increase iso size only ~10mb).
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #34 on: 20. September 2015, 20:57:49 »
i have uploaded an updated version based on rc3 of manjaro 15.09 (stable branch).

this is a maintenance release, which will reduce the number of updates after a fresh install. nothing has been changed since the last release, except for the removal of "gummiboot" (this will also be removed in manjaro xfce 15.09).

http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarodev/files/users/excalibur1234/net-minimal/2015.09/
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #35 on: 09. November 2015, 23:51:32 »
i have just uploaded an updated version 2015.11. all packages are in sync with manjaro net edition, except for the custom changes mentioned in the OP of this thread. additionally, i have removed dconf.

download link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarodev/files/users/excalibur1234/net-minimal/2015.11/
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #36 on: 23. December 2015, 18:31:09 »
i am uploading manjaro net-minimal 15.12 at the moment. it will be available in 4 hours here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarodev/files/users/excalibur1234/net-minimal/2015.12/

manjaro net-minimal 15.12 is in sync with manjaro net 15.12 again.
i made these additional changes:
- removed manjaro-tools-base (these are recovery chroot tools of manjaro)
- removed bmenu, brandr, mhwd-tui (these are CLI setting tools of manjaro)
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #37 on: 24. December 2015, 02:05:38 »
Does this release use systemd by default?

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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #38 on: 24. December 2015, 03:57:00 »
It does.

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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #39 on: 24. December 2015, 10:22:15 »
Does this release use systemd by default?
There is an OpenRC NET Edition available. It is a couple of months old, but the editions from September and August install and update without problems still.
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #40 on: 29. December 2015, 06:13:06 »
Hey, ex, I used your NET edition for the first time in a very long time. Your bmenu rocks!  :D

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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #41 on: 29. December 2015, 07:18:55 »
I like it too. :D Probably the most useful thing I have written besides thi pacli tweaks.

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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #42 on: 29. December 2015, 07:48:50 »
I like it too. :D Probably the most useful thing I have written besides thi pacli tweaks.

Ah, so. You're the culprit! I thought pacli was part & parcel with bmenu...

Anyway, righteous tools! Thanks. :D
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #43 on: 30. December 2015, 15:28:14 »
indeed, all the praise for bmenu, mhwd-tui, and brandr belongs to Chrysostomus. he developed them.
they are now part of the manjaro net edition.

pacli was developed by tropper/pekman, Chrysostomus, and me. it is not part of the manjaro net edition. pacli requires base-devel/yaourt support, which is not part manjaro net edition, either.


none of those tools are part of manjaro net-minimal, though. manjaro net-minimal, which this thread is about, tries to remove as much "cruft" from manjaro net edition as reasonably possible.
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Re: manjaro net-minimal
« Reply #44 on: 30. December 2015, 16:58:36 »
indeed, all the praise for bmenu, mhwd-tui, and brandr belongs to Chrysostomus. he developed them.
they are now part of the manjaro net edition...pacli was developed by tropper/pekman, Chrysostomus, and me. it is not part of the manjaro net edition. pacli requires base-devel/yaourt support, which is not part manjaro net edition, either...none of those tools are part of manjaro net-minimal, though. manjaro net-minimal, which this thread is about, tries to remove as much "cruft" from manjaro net edition as reasonably possible...

Either:
A. I used something other than the net minimal (I used manjaro-net-15.12-x86_64, 589.3 MB), or
B. BMenu & Pacli were installed when I ran "pacman -Syyu" after base install completed.

But I could be wrong--it's now a few days and a few DEs later...

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