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I want to try to build a new iso of manjaro with Budgie desktop as DE.

Goals of the project are:
  • light distro for low-end PCs (i want it to run smooth on single core/512Mb ram PCs)
  • 32bit centric (i mean...low end is low end)
  • cd size image if we can

Someone to help/join the project with me?

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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #1 on: 19. September 2014, 19:34:15 »
looking forward to it ...

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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #2 on: 19. September 2014, 19:36:59 »
Budgie is still far from being finished and it's Gnome 3, so it requires 3d capable graphics and ist not very lightweight.
So I don't think it's suitable for old/low perf hardware.

I'm a little worried too about Budgie and the effects that coming GTK+3 changes will have on it.
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« Last Edit: 19. September 2014, 22:44:22 by Jeannie »
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #3 on: 19. September 2014, 19:46:34 »
Agree with what Jeannie said but PM me, I am not a coder but might be of some help/man hours.
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #4 on: 19. September 2014, 22:46:20 »
you can always go to Manjaro-IRC if i am there i can help also if you want. :)
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #5 on: 19. September 2014, 23:21:23 »
I think it is a good idea, but only if no budgies are hurt during it's production :D


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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #6 on: 19. September 2014, 23:43:41 »
I think it is a good idea, but only if no budgies are hurt during it's production :D


Your biggest problem is Budgie is not yet at the beta stage and the git version changes regulary and sometimes breaks I would hold on till gnome hits 3.14 then budgie will be synced with it.
I'm using budgie just PM me when you are ready
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #7 on: 20. September 2014, 01:04:56 »
Thing that worries me is gnome/gtk3, they seem to break things the whole time which is even more concerning on a rolling release platform.

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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #8 on: 20. September 2014, 01:40:31 »
Thing that worries me is gnome/gtk3, they seem to break things the whole time which is even more concerning on a rolling release platform.
This is not true if you use Gnome as I do its only  true if the distro uses a custom theme and then waits to see if it breaks instead of testing while GTK is in Beta.
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #9 on: 21. September 2014, 13:05:46 »
Please also spin 64-bit, 32-bit only really is a waste and won't get used as much as a 64-bit one.

What's the progress on this one?

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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #10 on: 21. September 2014, 13:47:33 »
This is not true if you use Gnome as I do its only  true if the distro uses a custom theme and then waits to see if it breaks instead of testing while GTK is in Beta.

There have been massive breakages with every update of GTK+3, expect such stuff for GTK+3.14 too. Not talking only aboutthemes, but also about 'extensions' and decorations.
Vanilla Gnome 3 (as is) is unuseable by the way.
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #11 on: 21. September 2014, 14:11:44 »
There have been massive breakages with every update of GTK+3, expect such stuff for GTK+3.14 too. Not talking only aboutthemes, but also about 'extensions' and decorations.
Vanilla Gnome 3 (as is) is unuseable by the way.
J.
Jeanie Budgie does not use Gnome shell, or extentions, only GTK tool kit, its a desktop WM designed by Ikey.
And vanilla Gnome3 is very usable for users willing to let go of the past?
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #12 on: 21. September 2014, 14:22:15 »
Jeanie Budgie does not use Gnome shell, or extentions, only GTK tool kit, its a desktop WM designed by Ikey.
And vanilla Gnome3 is very usable for users willing to let go of the past?
if you say so, mighty Mandog.
By the way: Define Desktop WM please
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #13 on: 21. September 2014, 14:25:08 »
personal i, think budgie still need to be matured more it would be cool if it matured more and get more user friendly.. bu still need too much gnome parts for theming and stuff
and using gsettings ...
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Re: New Manjaro community ed: because.....why not? (budgie desktop inside)
« Reply #14 on: 21. September 2014, 14:30:21 »
if you say so, mighty Mandog....
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This is Ikey talking about a few points on distrowatch one of them about budgie
63 • @62 (by IkeyDoherty on 2014-08-29 23:08:06 GMT from United Kingdom)
Hi there :)

I can assure you my reasons for shutting down SolusOS had nothing to do with either finance or family. What you are stating unfortunately comes through many skewed sources that I have suffered reading over the last year, with ever increasing degradation in quality..
One rumour was that I gave up SolusOS to start a new job, despite already being in said job for 6 months before starting it. The irony also being I work exclusively with open source software :P

Anyway, no sense in me repeating myself for the rest of my life, so on to your point about GNOME 3.
When most people say GNOME 3 they mean the Shell, which is incorrect in the context of Budgie. It does not use shell. Myself, personally, I really dislike Shell.

We use GNOME technologies, but so does everyone. Whether its glib, or network-manager, or libgweather, or pwquality, or various tons of projects that are part of the GNOME umbrella, in one way or another we're all using them.

This is what Budgie does. The window manager is built around libmutter, as is GNOME Shell, and Gala from Pantheon. Budgie uses its own session manager, and the panel is written in Vala/GTK3 by myself. Please see: https://github.com/evolve-os/budgie-desktop/

So in reality I am not taming anything, I'm creating something new by using things that exist :) I gain the advantage of integration, a far lower technical debt and a healthy upstream relationship with various projects, putting me in a position I thoroughly enjoy :)

Also note that budgie-desktop is simply one source package that can already be installed on 5 distributions, and officially in 1 derivative, and available in many other derivatives. As opposed to a vast number of packages for MATE that I do not need.

Also note MATE completely goes the traditional route of GNOME2, whereas Budgie doesn't. As an option, you can in fact make it look and behave very much like GNOME2, but this is not the default :)
Please see https://evolve-os.com/budgie/
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