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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #135 on: 25. June 2014, 13:20:10 »
Interesting, if it dont need gtk, thx.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #136 on: 25. June 2014, 13:29:22 »
Flashplugin requires gtk2 if you install it, but if you just download adobe flash package and extract libflashplayer.so and put it in usr/lib/qupzilla you're done without any gtk.

You mean flashplugin ? I try to integrate that now.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #137 on: 25. June 2014, 13:50:23 »
You mean flashplugin ? I try to integrate that now.

Yes, if you install flashplugin from the repo it installs some dependencies, but if you just download the package and unarchive it and put the libflashplayer.so (which is really the thing doing the work) in relevant places (/usr/lib/qupzilla and maybe /usr/lib/mozilla) you're done without any gtk. One just needs to repeat this whenever libflashplayer.so (the adobe flash package) is updated.

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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #138 on: 25. June 2014, 15:09:30 »
New  ISO generated, with the trick of Salinko and this flashplugin. Flash works, but no more in the list :



It's a little bit cheat, but...  :D
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #139 on: 25. June 2014, 17:16:18 »
New  ISO generated, with the trick of Salinko and this flashplugin. Flash works, but no more in the list :



It's a little bit cheat, but...  :D

- i have remembered this post:
ssx (instead of gksu) as su/sudo frontend, though not a Qt utility, doesn't depend on GTK either freeing me from another GTK cruft. Yet Octopi can't be used with it, you can use pacmanxg instead of octopi.
but i am not sure, whether it is a good idea to kick out octopi...

- i am pretty sure that lxappearance is just a system setting to change the theme/icon. if other system setting tools can do the same job, you can get rid of it.

- you have still exo installed. it is required by xfburn. i think you can safely remove it.

- libxfce4ui is required by exo. if you do not need exo you do not need this package anymore.

- gtkhotkey and libunique are required by synapse.

- gtkmm is not needed by any programm (at least in your current public lxqt image). i do not know, why it is installed.

- libglade is required by pygtk. pygtk is required by python2-notify and pywebkitgtk. python2-notify is not required by any program. pywebkitgtk is required by manjaro-welcome.

- vte is required by lxterminal. you can probably remove it without any problem.


so, manjaro-welcome and octopi are dependent on gtk2. thus, synapse, libreoffice-installer, and gparted are also dependent on gtk2. i do not recommend to release lxqt without these great (mostly) manjaro tools.
what is your opinion about that?
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #140 on: 25. June 2014, 17:51:02 »
 :)

A lot of things, thx.

1) lxappearance is the only way to change the openbox theme. I dont know alternative

2) exo is bad, but what else than xfburn ? I searcher another burning program, and none. Maybe a  new topic for that

3)


4) synapse is interesting, I think

5) gtkmm required by gparted. What else ?

6) I suppressed manjaro-welcome, but I always have that : to study

7) I dont know exactly why I must have lxterminal. Somewhere, it's maybe bound to octopi.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #141 on: 25. June 2014, 19:24:06 »
It doesnt disturb me to have some gtk2 or gtk3 tools. But each time I can replace one by an equivalent, I do that.

Sure, Octopi is good. Manajro-welcome also, I had it in the preceeding release. But it does the boot slower and for a desktop whose one of the main qualities is the lightness, I hesitate.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #142 on: 26. June 2014, 00:37:39 »
It doesnt disturb me to have some gtk2 or gtk3 tools. But each time I can replace one by an equivalent, I do that.
i agree. as long as there is no alternative, keep using the gtk2 dependent package.
octopi, synapse, manjaro-welcome, thus, libreoffice-installer, and gparted are all dependent on gtk2. therefore, you should keep gtk2 until you find equivalent alternatives.

but you can get rid of gtk3. gtk3 is more modern and bigger (and it introduces incompatibilities with each release, but that is another  topic). lxqt becomes lighter when you do not have any gtk3 dependencies anymore.
i am not sure, but i think you already have eliminated gtk3 from your lxqt release. is this true?
(your latest public release image of lxqt is NOT independent of gtk3)

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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #143 on: 26. June 2014, 00:59:32 »
1) lxappearance is the only way to change the openbox theme. I dont know alternative
ok. then, i think it is important. keep it until it is possible to change the openbox theme within another lxqt settings window.

2) exo is bad, but what else than xfburn ? I searcher another burning program, and none. Maybe a  new topic for that
3)

sorry, i was not aware that lxqt still uses xfburn. i am not sure, but i think we have already search for a qt only CD/DVD burnining utility without success. maybe it would help to start a new thread about it, because threads are easier to find (just in case in the future somebody finds that topic and knows a good qt only CD/DVD burning utility).

4) synapse is interesting, I think
5) gtkmm required by gparted. What else ?
6) I suppressed manjaro-welcome, but I always have that : to study
synapse, gaprted, and manjaro-welcome are important programs and simply the best available programs. please do not remove them. if this means we have to keep gtk2, then please keep gtk2.

7) I dont know exactly why I must have lxterminal. Somewhere, it's maybe bound to octopi.
vte and lxterminal are dependent packages. i have removed lxterminal from the current lxqt release and octopi keeps working. octopi uses qterminal. i think you can safely remove lxterminal (and vte).
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #144 on: 26. June 2014, 00:59:52 »
Not completely ;



waiting for a lxqt-wallet and a qconnman working.

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webkitgtk is a rest of thus and will be suppressed.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #145 on: 26. June 2014, 01:46:50 »
Not completely ;



waiting for a lxqt-wallet and a qconnman working.

(edit)
webkitgtk is a rest of thus and will be suppressed.
thanks.
it is good to know that you are pretty close to removing gtk3 completely from lxqt. it sounds like lxqt-wallet and a qconnman will be part of the stable release of lxqt. we just have to wait...
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #146 on: 26. June 2014, 03:20:02 »
Suppressing webkit? /usr/bin/manjaro-welcome (python) calls WebKit.WebView to display /usr/share/manjaro-welcome/index.html Just curious. Is that a problem?
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #147 on: 26. June 2014, 11:01:38 »
Hi :)

The main problem is that a gtk and that for the moment I dont use manjaro-welcome.

Another is here :

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117 MB for nothing else than a welcome at boot ?  ::)
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #148 on: 26. June 2014, 11:38:30 »
mmm...
You could still have Manjaro Welcome without the overhead by including the directory /usr/share/manjaro-welcome (only 447.8kb). Could you not simply add a desktop launcher called "Manjaro Welcome" to start qupzilla and load with /usr/share/manjaro-welcome/index.html? It's basically a simple single HTML page that could even be edited if necessary to remove the items that start the installers if you have desktop launchers for them or unless the links work properly in qupzilla, of course. MAny of the links are to external URLs and are of the form "cmd://link?http://forum.manjaro.org". These could be rewritten, dropping 'cmd://link?' and tagged so they open the link in new tab.
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Re: What are your favorite qt4/qt5 applications ?
« Reply #149 on: 26. June 2014, 11:44:16 »
Hmm, yes, it can be an idea, thx. For the moment, qupzilla opens http://manjaro.org/ as start page by default.
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