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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #15 on: 15. April 2014, 02:20:11 »
Didn't even try the CLI this time:)

Memory usage on actual hardware with Nvidia drivers.  Would probably be a little lower in another 15 minutes or so once systemd and gvfs settle down.  I'm actually rather surprised given the last time I tried Razor it was using ~350 Mb and had next to nothing installed.

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Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

148.0 KiB +  33.5 KiB = 181.5 KiB       agetty
304.0 KiB +  38.5 KiB = 342.5 KiB       dbus-launch
596.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 632.5 KiB       crond
672.0 KiB +  50.0 KiB = 722.0 KiB       systemd-logind
708.0 KiB + 184.0 KiB = 892.0 KiB       gvfsd
888.0 KiB +  59.5 KiB = 947.5 KiB       systemd-udevd
892.0 KiB + 148.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB       ntpd
916.0 KiB + 188.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB       at-spi2-registryd
896.0 KiB + 240.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB       gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
868.0 KiB + 393.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB       (sd-pam)
  1.0 MiB + 273.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB       menu-cached
  1.4 MiB +  43.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       bash
  1.3 MiB + 269.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB       gvfsd-fuse
  1.1 MiB + 439.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB       lxqt-globalkeysd
  1.3 MiB + 315.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB       sudo
  1.4 MiB + 349.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB       upowerd
  1.4 MiB + 510.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       cupsd
  1.5 MiB + 503.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB       dbus-daemon (3)
  1.3 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   2.4 MiB       systemd (2)
  2.1 MiB + 504.0 KiB =   2.6 MiB       gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
  1.9 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   3.0 MiB       lxqt-notificationd
  2.4 MiB + 801.0 KiB =   3.1 MiB       sddm
  2.2 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   3.4 MiB       lxqt-session
  3.1 MiB + 324.5 KiB =   3.4 MiB       at-spi-bus-launcher
  4.4 MiB + 516.0 KiB =   4.9 MiB       udisksd
  4.1 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   5.1 MiB       lxqt-policykit-agent
  5.3 MiB + 713.0 KiB =   6.0 MiB       NetworkManager
  7.3 MiB +  37.0 KiB =   7.4 MiB       dhclient
  8.3 MiB +  64.0 KiB =   8.4 MiB       systemd-journald
  8.0 MiB + 381.5 KiB =   8.4 MiB       polkitd
  6.9 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   8.7 MiB       lxqt-runner
  6.7 MiB +   2.2 MiB =   8.9 MiB       qterminal
 11.0 MiB + 669.0 KiB =  11.7 MiB       applet.py
 12.6 MiB +   3.4 MiB =  16.0 MiB       lxqt-panel
 15.1 MiB +   4.4 MiB =  19.5 MiB       openbox
 18.1 MiB +   4.9 MiB =  23.0 MiB       nm-applet
 37.3 MiB +   5.0 MiB =  42.3 MiB       pcmanfm-qt
 42.4 MiB +   7.9 MiB =  50.3 MiB       Xorg
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                        259.7 MiB
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My KDE uses barely more. ;)

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Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used       Program

 68.0 KiB +   8.0 KiB =  76.0 KiB       start_kdeinit
 72.0 KiB +  16.5 KiB =  88.5 KiB       kwrapper4
116.0 KiB +  25.0 KiB = 141.0 KiB       agetty
184.0 KiB +  31.5 KiB = 215.5 KiB       dbus-launch
228.0 KiB +  16.0 KiB = 244.0 KiB       dhcpcd
248.0 KiB +  53.0 KiB = 301.0 KiB       rtkit-daemon
308.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB = 328.5 KiB       gpg-agent
396.0 KiB +  54.0 KiB = 450.0 KiB       ksysguardd
300.0 KiB + 217.5 KiB = 517.5 KiB       startkde
412.0 KiB + 132.0 KiB = 544.0 KiB       gconfd-2
568.0 KiB +  31.0 KiB = 599.0 KiB       crond
608.0 KiB +  48.0 KiB = 656.0 KiB       systemd-logind
540.0 KiB + 188.0 KiB = 728.0 KiB       gconf-helper
704.0 KiB + 136.5 KiB = 840.5 KiB       ntpd
796.0 KiB +  58.0 KiB = 854.0 KiB       wpa_supplicant
576.0 KiB + 281.0 KiB = 857.0 KiB       pacmanhelper
964.0 KiB +  48.0 KiB =   1.0 MiB       systemd-udevd
748.0 KiB + 273.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB       (sd-pam)
972.0 KiB + 242.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB       thermald
  1.0 MiB + 246.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       sudo
924.0 KiB + 453.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB       kdm (2)
  5.2 MiB + -3718.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB     upowerd
  1.3 MiB + 413.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB       dbus-daemon (2)
  1.1 MiB + 763.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       kio_http_cache_
  1.6 MiB + 251.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB       syslog-ng
  1.1 MiB + 945.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB       systemd (2)
968.0 KiB +   1.1 MiB =   2.0 MiB       klauncher
  1.4 MiB + 676.0 KiB =   2.0 MiB       bash (2)
  5.8 MiB + -3749.0 KiB =   2.1 MiB     udisksd
  2.5 MiB +  58.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB       systemd-journald
648.0 KiB +   2.4 MiB =   3.0 MiB       kdeinit4
  3.3 MiB + 502.0 KiB =   3.8 MiB       pulseaudio
  2.9 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   4.3 MiB       ksmserver
  3.4 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   4.6 MiB       polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
 16.3 MiB + -11933.0 KiB =   4.7 MiB    polkitd
  3.6 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   4.8 MiB       kglobalaccel
  4.0 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   5.0 MiB       kuiserver
  4.1 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.2 MiB       knotify4
  4.3 MiB + 997.0 KiB =   5.3 MiB       wicd-monitor
  3.7 MiB +   1.7 MiB =   5.4 MiB       octopi-notifier
  4.4 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   5.4 MiB       kactivitymanagerd
  5.3 MiB + 994.0 KiB =   6.3 MiB       wicd
  4.5 MiB +   2.0 MiB =   6.6 MiB       konqueror
  4.5 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   6.6 MiB       krunner
  3.7 MiB +   3.1 MiB =   6.8 MiB       gkrellm
  3.9 MiB +   2.9 MiB =   6.9 MiB       pnmixer
  3.9 MiB +   3.1 MiB =   7.0 MiB       konsole
  5.4 MiB +   2.1 MiB =   7.5 MiB       kded4
  5.6 MiB +   3.2 MiB =   8.8 MiB       yakuake
 21.7 MiB +   2.1 MiB =  23.9 MiB       kwin
 25.5 MiB + -1328.5 KiB =  24.2 MiB     Xorg [updated]
 88.1 MiB + -4867.5 KiB =  83.3 MiB     plasma-desktop
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                        269.9 MiB

Best regards.

PS. My KDE is off the topic, but I couldn't resist. ;)
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #16 on: 15. April 2014, 04:00:50 »
PS. My KDE is off the topic, but I couldn't resist. ;)

I know how that is:)  Although I have to ask is your KDE 64-bit with propietary drivers though?

Like I said I was just really surprised after my last experience with Razor-QT.

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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #17 on: 15. April 2014, 04:12:09 »
No, 32-bit and free.  :)

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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #18 on: 15. April 2014, 10:03:49 »
Conky57,

it's not the place for KDE advertisement. I could discuss what you say, but not here.
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #19 on: 15. April 2014, 10:22:18 »
LCJr,

Thanks for your tries. The main problem remains the theming, but it's very difficult. I must see what I can do with qtcurve, but for the moment, the result is bad.
I think suppress the faenza, too classic -> ? but use by default a better krat myrelax (I dont like a lot the Oxygen, too common).

Menu : I must look for the french entry, thanks. I think simplify all : I don't know if the current choice (done by default) to have together a control center and entry for each element, as in Xfce, is good. Leave only the essential, as short as possible. For the moment, it's too complicate for the user.

For the administrator terminal : a red prompt ?
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #20 on: 15. April 2014, 17:45:47 »
Personally I feel icons and theming is best left to the user but it seems some people want a uniform Manjaro look across the various DE's.  Or to put another way, no matter what you do somebody will always be unhappy with it:)  So do what you want.

I agree with you on simplifying the menu.  Maybe a GTK Theme submenu to clearly separate the GTK theming from QT.

Red top panel.  Top window in screenshot is user account with Raleigh theme and Gnome icons.  Bottom is Root with same theming but has the red panel, overrides the theme I guess.  Makes for a nice visual indicator that you're in a root window.


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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #21 on: 15. April 2014, 17:59:30 »
I don't know how to do that for a windows.  :o
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #22 on: 16. April 2014, 08:56:45 »
Sorry, still haven't had much time to look at it properly.

Not seeing a task manager/system monitor.

.config/Autostart folder and contents.  Leftover from Openbox?  Don't really seem to serve any purpose.
.config/Obmenu-generator exists but it isn't installed.
.conkyrc is in Home but conky isn't installed. 

Too many terminals.  Q, LX and X.

Is PCManFM set to start minimized or does it not remember settings?

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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #23 on: 16. April 2014, 11:44:20 »
As taskmanager, qps is included.

autostart works. For example, to start compton, rename in this folder compton.sav as compton.desktop. But compton-conf, in the menu, seems not working well.

xterm et uxterm are due to an octopi dependency I will suppress them. I said it to Arnt. They are ugly and must disappear.
qterminal is under development, and has for me two problems : the Linux path is not in the title, and no transparency. So I furnish lxterminal as alternative.

.conkyrc is remainng from ??? Thanks, I will suppress it.

afaik, this version of pcmanfm-qt doesn't remember the settings. But you can customize his size at opening.
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #24 on: 16. April 2014, 11:53:41 »
Re,

For the menu, currently, I use menulibre, but it works not good. I never used obmenu-generator, must learn it.
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #25 on: 16. April 2014, 17:09:02 »
I will look for qps.

autostart has pulseaudio-ctl, turbulence and disable-dpms.  Are any of those even needed or installed?

xterm can be configured.  You can change it during session by holding down Ctrl and one of the mouse buttons.  Each mouse button brings up it's own menu and its kind of tricky.  You have keep holding the mouse button and select the item you want to change and release.  To make the changes permenant you have the edit some files.  I've read tutorials online but completely forgotten it all:)  Maybe check you know where:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xterm

I believe obmenu-generator only works for the openbox menu.  To enable the openbox menu don't you have to give up the desktop-right click menu?  Although you can set the openbox menu to a keyboard shortcut or something like this:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox#Desktop_menu_as_a_panel_menu  I followed this tutorial and it works but not a 100% of the time for me.  Sometimes had a click more than once to open the menu or I could have been accidently double clicking too.


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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #26 on: 19. April 2014, 16:31:08 »
New ISO HERE. Nothing of very new, but we didn't have a 32 bits with proprietary drivers.
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Re: New ISO Lxde-QT bêta 64 bits available !
« Reply #27 on: 19. April 2014, 20:24:19 »
for everybody, who has trouble updating lxqt-config-git, do
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then, the update works.

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https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=12741.msg114531#msg114531
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