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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #180 on: 01. March 2013, 14:25:01 »
not sure it isn't a pacman-cli wrapper or not sure it is a bad idea?
Why doing it yourself when manjaro-system can do it for you?

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #181 on: 01. March 2013, 18:14:46 »
Don't know about the terminal output. The idea of Pamac is to hide that stuff from new users. You could always learn to use pacman in the terminal, though.

I think the Pacman-GUI should still work, but it really was just there as a transitional step before pamac.

Sorry, more questions.  Anyone have any screenshots of what an error message for a failed install/update looks like?  IMHO hiding stuff is fine as long as you don't go too far with it.  Asking because I was trying out a Fedora-based distro recently and something went wrong with at least one of the 150+ updates and it only gave an error message letting me know something went wrong and zero details.  A reminder of where the log files are at least would have been nice, actual information would have better:)

Ran Arch for a few months so somewhat familiar with Pacman.  Really like it but I also freely admit to be lazy:)  Like the Pacman-GUI for the simple reason it lets me indulge in my laziness and still provide a detailed output. 

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #182 on: 01. March 2013, 23:22:01 »
if some failed on pamac you should even watch on pacman -Syy and -Syu ...

sometimes  things not clear if you use the updater i suppose...wthen with terminal it get more clear... so you can fix it.

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #183 on: 01. March 2013, 23:26:20 »
I feel confident in using pamac now, found out it removes dependencies also. So i dont have to worry about cluttering my harddrive with files i dont need.

I have removed pacman-gui now :)

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #184 on: 01. March 2013, 23:52:55 »
always watch out , what it removes.... can be important.. depencies is like a tree, missing something and the tree falls down :)
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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #185 on: 03. March 2013, 00:57:46 »
So true , I guess it what happened to me a while ago .

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #186 on: 03. March 2013, 08:48:31 »
Well... I'm sure there will be a reason for not being able to browse/install aur (yaourt) packages from pamac, but for a newbie like me this should be a must.

IMHO if you replace pacman package-browser you should provide a way to (at less) browse aur packages. I know this can be done with the terminal or other yaourt gui's, but I think pamac would be perfect for new manjaro users like me if we have the ability to manage every single package out there from the same place. Is this too dificult to do?, or pamac is not intended to do it? If I can help on this, let me know.

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #187 on: 03. March 2013, 12:29:54 »
hi

you can still browse the Aur with pkgbrowser  you can install it also if you want.

for an newB user from ubuntu  or something is not like opportune to use aur directly.. i have my own flavours like packagemanager and i used it also that can handle both.. but is personal.

pamac is a nice package manager, still in baby steps.. but im sure it will envolve to much better....

im hoping also that in future more options comes and not to be more like look a like of  gnome-package kit, to have an button of some options to control... list of orphans or something or Rankmirror... mayby ad an option to choose which layer you want to use :) unstable/testing / stable :)

but something like that has to envolve....or something just a list to choose which server you want... And
with Rss you can add collor at the end green like up to date, yellow out-dated and red down :)

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Re: pamac - what are the advantages over Pacman?
« Reply #188 on: 03. March 2013, 15:55:35 »
i found Synaptic easy to use in Mint & I find Pacman easy to use on Manjaro. can someone please lay out the advantages of starting to use Pamac? i can't imagine it being easier than either of the first two mentioned. maybe it is much better at removing apps & their dependencies without messing up the system. can someone lay out the advantages/disadvantages? apologies if it's in an earlier page of comments - i must confess I haven't read all 12+ pages of comments. i find Pacman super easy. thanks, Ruziel.
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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #189 on: 03. March 2013, 15:59:39 »
An native package manager is nice and pamac is build after gnome-packagekit only advantage they have control over te package.. still under development , but it will be stable atlast and will evolve to more supportives in to the distro (!) they could build more options with in with out doing Terminal that would be very friendly atlast.. but this is easy also very simpel.

its mayby not looking for now, but watch how it evolve to something better ;)

and pacman you can always use.. but for newB is this also an nice packagemanager :)
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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #190 on: 03. March 2013, 16:05:57 »
ringo32, thanks - i think i'll stick with pacman in the meantime & change over to pamac at a later date - it would be great to eventually use a native Manjaro package manager. i find it hard to understand how a package management tool can't extract ALL dependencies that are not being used by another part of the system. if they're being used elsewhere, surely one doesn't want to remove them. but i'm not a techie, so it's obviously much harder to extract dependencies safely than i realise.

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #191 on: 03. March 2013, 16:25:10 »
Well to  use it you Help also...

only watch out what you do, and in mean time is improved, only watch what you doing, if you dont know its right test it in pacman and job is done, but you can report it! when noone report pamac wouldnt get better :) share the experience :)
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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #192 on: 07. March 2013, 12:03:08 »
Here s what I got after some commands because Pamac was stuck on Refreshing after this :

rm /tmp/pamac.pid
rm: cannot remove ‘/tmp/pamac.pid’: No such file or directory

Now what I m doing please .

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #193 on: 07. March 2013, 12:24:37 »
A found solution from a new member Robert Trance was found :

sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck
sudo pacman -Syy and -Syu after, or simply pacman -Syyu.

It worked for me on my end .

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Re: pamac - simple pacman gui for Manjaro Linux
« Reply #194 on: 10. March 2013, 12:57:20 »
It would be nice to see a pamac software center with also integrated cleaning of the packages in automatic...

However on pamac there are no all the packages when you try to search... if you try with  yaourt there's many more
« Last Edit: 10. March 2013, 12:59:07 by Elsharaawy »