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Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« on: 27. July 2013, 23:02:41 »
Hello,
since the last update + changing pamac to octopi, it seems some process (octopi-notifier ?) does automatic "pacman -Syy" at some intervals.

$ tail /var/log/pacman.log
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[2013-07-27 10:19] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S octopi'
[2013-07-27 10:19] [PACMAN] installed octopi (0.2.0.0726.6821d6d-1)
[2013-07-27 10:19] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:19] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 10:33] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Rsn pamac'
[2013-07-27 10:34] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -R pamac'
[2013-07-27 10:34] [PACMAN] removed pamac (0.7.5.1-2)
[2013-07-27 10:35] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:35] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 10:37] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:37] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 10:40] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:40] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 10:41] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:41] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 10:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 10:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 11:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 11:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 12:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 12:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 13:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 13:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 15:16] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 15:16] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 16:41] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 16:41] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 17:41] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 17:41] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 18:01] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 18:01] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 22:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 22:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 21:42] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 21:42] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 22:21] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 22:21] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2013-07-27 22:31] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syy'
[2013-07-27 22:31] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists


sudo tail /var/log/messages
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Jul 27 22:31:24 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: :: Synchronizing package databases...
Jul 27 22:31:24 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: downloading core.db...
Jul 27 22:31:25 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: downloading extra.db...
Jul 27 22:31:31 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: downloading community.db...
Jul 27 22:31:38 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: downloading multilib.db...
Jul 27 22:31:38 manjaro dbus-daemon[500]: downloading mate.db...

Is this normal ? Because I don't like this. :(
Thanks for your help,
Stephane.

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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #1 on: 27. July 2013, 23:10:22 »
octopy using pacman for all i know, and for my concern pacman is stable, it isnt bad at all...

you can always switch notifier off if you want and replace it with kalu or pamac-tray, when is something up you can always choose octopi or pacman for update..
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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #2 on: 27. July 2013, 23:58:50 »
Please update to the last version from yesterday/today:

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<arnt> Did u see this: http://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=5852.0
<phil_m> checking.
<phil_m> hmm
<phil_m> is it so?
<phil_m> maybe a to short routine
<arnt> No, it shouldn't act that way
<arnt> It's a 1h delay...
<arnt> That's quite weird

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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #3 on: 28. July 2013, 00:15:12 »
It is the last version (installed today at 8:19 UTC):
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$ pacman -Q octopi
octopi 0.2.0.0726.6821d6d-1

I confirm the process delay is 1 hour.


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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #4 on: 28. July 2013, 00:24:41 »
It is the last version (installed today at 8:19 UTC):
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$ pacman -Q octopi
octopi 0.2.0.0726.6821d6d-1

I confirm the process delay is 1 hour.

Quetzal,

The notifier has to query the database for new packages from time to time.
If you don't like it, you can use only octopi, without the notifier.

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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #5 on: 28. July 2013, 00:44:55 »
We had some issues Arnt fixed in last minute before we moved it to stable. Latest is octopi 0.2.0.0727.e8089a9-1

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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #6 on: 30. July 2013, 19:15:09 »
Thanks for your answers,
Actually, I'd want to know if it is normal that Octopi completely download the packages database (-Syy) any hour instead of simply checking with (-Sy) option. If you confirm this is the regular behaviour I will probably try another update notifier because - maybe I'm wrong - I can't see the need of download all db each time.
I use pacman to all transactions and simply use octopi (formerly pamac) as a notifier.
Philip, I can't upgrade to the 0727 version because my system says I am up to date (and I only see the 0726 on stable repos).

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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #7 on: 30. July 2013, 20:11:59 »
-Syy was chosen to be save. Maybe we should offer a settings option so people can choose if they want to use -Syy or -Sy for it. Latest octopi version is now: 0.2.0.0729.6461800-1 which can be found in unstable.
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Re: Octopi does automatic 'pacman -Syy' ?
« Reply #8 on: 30. July 2013, 20:58:08 »
Thanks Philip it's clearer.

Stephane.