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Support for Community Editions => Others => Fluxbox => Topic started by: oberon on 29. August 2015, 21:43:22

Title: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 29. August 2015, 21:43:22
Stable install media are now available:
Systemd (https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/community/Fluxbox/2015.08/systemd/)
OpenRC (https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/community/Fluxbox/2015.08/openrc/)

(http://i.imgur.com/nTC7iCg.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ri1obYU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/0qob5ut.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/1k8vhid.png)

This aims to present a really fully featured release, complete with office- and multimedia-applications ready to use OOTB with a preconfigured menu for pretty much everything. The AwOken-iconset (coloured, white and dark) takes up some diskspace, too, but I think those icons are really beautifully designed and extraordinarily complete.
Therefor the ISOs are not so small ( >1GB ) but anyway it remains a light and extremely fast system.

* kernel 4.1
* Pamac
* Manjaro-Settings-Manager
* Pcmanfm
* Lxterminal
* Palemoon
* Claws-mail
* Hexchat
* Abiword, Mousepad, Nano
* Gnumeric, Galculator
* Pinta, Gpicview, Nitrogen, Qpdfview
* Pulseaudio, Lxmusic, VLC media-player
* Scrot
* Gparted
* manjaro-printer
* Wbar, Fluxbox-Menu
* Clipit, Cbatticon, nm-applet, pa-applet, Oblogout with OutMok-theme
* AwOken-icon-theme, new custom 'manjaro-flux'-theme, Compton
* yaourt, base-devel

Check it out and give me some feedback! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Holmes on 29. August 2015, 21:50:12
oooooo downloading! great job @oberon, congratulations!

vlw fwi, Holmes :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: gohlip on 29. August 2015, 23:02:23
Nice..... typing from palemoon on your fluxbox.
All works well. Congrats and thanks.
Volume label (misolabel) is MFX08131 - I am trying to understand how this is named.
Of course it's up to the developer how this is named, but is there a system or 'convention' to do this?
I always need to find out for each version of Manjaro iso before I can boot up or install. No big issue but it's nice to be aware. Thanks. Cheers.

Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 29. August 2015, 23:22:23
Thanks gohlip! :)
Volume label (misolabel) is MFX08131 - I am trying to understand how this is named.
Manjaro-FluxboX 0.8.13.1 is what that's supposed to mean ;)
It's a bit tricky to find something with max 8 capital letters that somehow makes sense ... ::)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: gohlip on 29. August 2015, 23:36:50
Thanks gohlip! :)Manjaro-FluxboX 0.8.13.1 is what that's supposed to mean ;)
It's a bit tricky to find something with max 8 capital letters that somehow makes sense ... ::)
Thanks for reply.
So that means  some future Manjaro Openbox will be MOB08132 or MOB0901?  ;)

Cheers. Look forward to your next Manjaro flavour. Take care.


Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Holmes on 30. August 2015, 01:42:07
proving here. memory consumption is around 190MB (in vbox), a little high. it is well functional and liked the look. i liked the wbar was very beautiful with these icons. how about putting a conky? congratulations for the great work!

vlw fwi, Holmes :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: israuor on 30. August 2015, 14:42:38
Currently Im running manjaro net edition with serveral desktops... when I install fluxbox, how do I get it to look like that ?

Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 30. August 2015, 15:29:04
OpenRC versions are now online, too: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-fluxbox/files/manjaro-fluxbox-0.8.13.1/openrc/

:)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 30. August 2015, 15:33:52
Currently Im running manjaro net edition with serveral desktops... when I install fluxbox, how do I get it to look like that ?
installing the brand new packages fluxbox-theme-manjaro, fluxlogout and awoken-icon-theme might help you quite a lot on the way. For the rest you could check out the config files and package lists in the ISO-profile: https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles/tree/master/fluxbox
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: withjaro on 30. August 2015, 15:46:33
A fine art,indeed - like much that springs from the Manjaro well  :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: killshot on 30. August 2015, 16:10:28
Holy shit this is sexy!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Ste74 on 30. August 2015, 16:20:21
Very very nice  ;D

Oberon the look is fantastic ...

sehr gut   8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 31. August 2015, 20:33:38
Lovely review by Linux Help Guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIE50HK-Ow0

And more OtherStuff, too ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxPrmM4lnE
and revisited even :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-qfhOBR6Y
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Holmes on 31. August 2015, 22:05:03
Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13.1: dos sistemas de inicio a elegir (http://lamiradadelreplicante.com/2015/08/30/manjaro-fluxbox-0-8-13-1-dos-sistemas-de-inicio-a-elegir/)

Lanzamiento oficial de Manjaro Fluxbox 0.8.13-1 (http://manjaro-es.org/viewtopic.php?f=49&p=10510&sid=9c486c73952663c4ff8a6de180344d82#p10510)

Manjaro Fluxbox Edition 0.8.13.1 liberado (http://manjaro-linux.com.br/forum/topic3245.html)

vlw fwi, Holmes :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 31. August 2015, 22:26:20
Oh, cool! Thank you, Holmes! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: kike1965 on 01. September 2015, 02:42:05
Un gran trabajo oberon, me parece fantástico todo el diseño y cuidado en las diferentes configuraciones de Fluxbox. Realmente me gustó mucho ver nuevamente renacer una edición de Manjaro Fluxbox.

Un abrazo y reitero mis felicitaciones por esta excelente edición.  :)

Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 01. September 2015, 02:50:09
Thank you very much for your kind words, Kike! :)
Fluxbox is really a great WM and it's fun to play around with the configuration...  8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: kike1965 on 01. September 2015, 02:55:38
Thank you very much for your kind words, Kike! :)
Fluxbox is really a great WM and it's fun to play around with the configuration...  8)

You're absolutely right oberon, Fluxbox is simple to set up, light and do what you have to do, I use it in Manjaro, Arch and FreeBSD and everything is perfect, I only need to install it on Windows  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

best regards  ;)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 01. September 2015, 13:02:25
The thread regarding EFI bootloader issues has been moved to https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=25744.0 (https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=25744.0).

Just posting this back here in case more people stumble upon this issue with manjaro-fluxbox.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 01. September 2015, 14:12:49
I only need to install it on Windows  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Great! Good luck with that one! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 02. September 2015, 05:28:25
So, what about the "oblogout-manjaro" package?  When will it be available in the stable repos?  Today, I almost installed i3lock to replace xlockmore, so I'm very interested in this!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 02. September 2015, 08:56:22
It will arrive with the next stable update on Monday. But you can of course install it already from the unstable repo with a temporary
Code: [Select]
sudo pacman-mirrors -g -b unstable && sudo pacman -Sy
sudo pacman -S oblogout-manjaro

Just remember to
Code: [Select]
sudo pacman-mirrors -g && sudo pacman -Syagain afterwards to keep the rest of your system in stable... :) 8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 02. September 2015, 14:15:30
Hey, oberon!

I don't know how to contribute to the project (other than poking you on the forums..)

Because nitrogen is used by default the default theme should (in my opinion) be slightly changed:


Code: [Select]
/usr/share/fluxbox/styles/manjaro-flux/theme.cfg

Comment out:
background:
background.color:
background.colorTo:

This is based on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Nitrogen (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Nitrogen)
Quote
You may find that if you restart Fluxbox, the wallpaper set by the currently selected theme overwrites the wallpaper set by Nitrogen. To fix this, edit the theme.cfg file of the theme you are using and comment out or delete the following options:
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 02. September 2015, 14:23:13
Thank you oleerik!
That's perfectly fine. Please keep poking! ;D
Good point with the packground!
Package update is on the way :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 02. September 2015, 14:37:06
Thank you oleerik!
That's perfectly fine. Please keep poking! ;D
Good point with the packground!
Package update is on the way :)

For the future: Could I, theoretically, push this change to github myself?
I'm guessing I could... I've just never used github for anything but personal project so far. Sorry if it's a dumb question :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 02. September 2015, 15:34:31
You can always simply fork a repo and open a pull request with your suggested change, sure! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 02. September 2015, 18:39:23
It will arrive with the next stable update on Monday. But you can of course install it already from the unstable repo with a temporary
Code: [Select]
sudo pacman-mirrors -g -b unstable && sudo pacman -Sy
sudo pacman -S oblogout-manjaro

Just remember to
Code: [Select]
sudo pacman-mirrors -g && sudo pacman -Syagain afterwards to keep the rest of your system in stable... :) 8)

Thanks!  :)  But do I need to edit any dotfiles to get it to work?  Or will it automagically work by itself?  Does it come with a preference pane for the menu?

Sorry about all the hand holding!   :P
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 02. September 2015, 19:34:58
Editing not necessarily needed, just you might want to comment out one or the other entry like maybe switch user or hibernate in /etc/oblogout.conf :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 02. September 2015, 20:24:52
Editing not necessarily needed, just you might want to comment out one or the other entry like maybe switch user or hibernate in /etc/oblogout.conf :)

Thanks, Oberon! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 02. September 2015, 20:46:59
Looks like we have a happy new manjaro fluxbox user here ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLtOtP1PU0
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 02. September 2015, 22:27:31
Looks like we have a happy new manjaro fluxbox user here ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLtOtP1PU0

That was beautiful!   :'(   :'(   :'(  ;D   ;D   ;D

And I have to say, the past couple of weeks I've been reflecting on how much I've grown to love Linux.  Like the author of the video, that started with Crunchbang for me as well.  Two years I've been using Manjaro, and while I think the time is approaching that I will try to install Arch on my own, it will only be for the experience, not to switch.  Manjaro is the best!   ;D

I went from Ubuntu to OpenSuse to Crunchbang -- and let me tell you, I didn't think it could get any better.  I knew right away that I wouldn't be going anywhere else for a long while.  Here we are on my two-year anniversary!   ;D

LOVE that video!   8) 
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: fairoaks66 on 03. September 2015, 06:57:41
How do you change fluxbox themes, fonts etc?    Most fluxbox distros, antiX, etc have dozens of themes to choose from.     
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 03. September 2015, 08:56:43
gtk-themes and icons can be set with lxappearance (in the menu under Configuration>Appearance)
To change the fluxbox-theme (defining window-borders, fonts and much more) you'll have to edit ~/.fluxbox/init There is an entry session.styleFile
The whole bunch of default fluxbox themes is in /usr/share/fluxbox/styles/
I just thought they were all not really convincing and for that reason created a new one, which is now called manjaro-flux ;)
The desktop font is set directly in the theme-file.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 03. September 2015, 18:22:29
I just thought they were all not really convincing and for that reason created a new one, which is now called manjaro-flux ;)

Yes, but have you seen "Warm Flux (http://samirkahvedzic.deviantart.com/art/Warm-Flux-box-336404026)?"   8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Macmeister on 07. September 2015, 20:30:28
Just installed (my first experience with fluxbox), and I love it! I'll definitely be running this for the long-term. I'm not really a fan of the wbar (although it's beautiful) and wondered how I might disable it. Great release!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 07. September 2015, 20:40:26
Great! I'm glad you like it! :)
wbar is started (together with all autostart applications) in ~/.fluxbox/startup
You can simply comment it out there.
What are you going to use instead? Just the menu and keyboard shortcuts?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 07. September 2015, 20:46:42
Maybe you'd like to have a look here: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=25944.0
In case you are going to use Synapse, please let us know if it works for you.
Also maybe dmenu is something you might like to consider ... :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 07. September 2015, 20:55:43
Maybe you'd like to have a look here: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=25944.0
In case you are going to use Synapse, please let us know if it works for you.
Also maybe dmenu is something you might like to consider ... :)

I actually had the same issue. Ended up just removing it and using stjerm :)

Seemed like the decoration would disappear if I restarted fluxbox.


Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Macmeister on 07. September 2015, 21:00:48
Great! I'm glad you like it! :)
wbar is started (together with all autostart applications) in ~/.fluxbox/startup
You can simply comment it out there.
What are you going to use instead? Just the menu and keyboard shortcuts?
Yes, I was thinking of just going with menu and shortcuts, but I'm not sure... those icons are pretty sweet! While I've got your ear I'm going to jump topic just a bit. I installed xscreensaver, added it to /.fluxbox/startup, but find that it doesn't work consistently. (in fact it seems to work once, but then doesn't work until I enable it again. Sorry, but I'm a serious FluxBox noob!  ;)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 07. September 2015, 21:07:02
I installed xscreensaver, added it to /.fluxbox/startup, but find that it doesn't work consistently. (in fact it seems to work once, but then doesn't work until I enable it again.
Have you added it with a '&' at the end of the line? This is needed for an application to continue running after the first execution.
If it still does not work I'm afraid I cannot be very helpful as I have never used xscreensaver. But I'm sure you'll find a bunch of other people here with experience on this ...  8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Macmeister on 07. September 2015, 21:20:31
Have you added it with a '&' at the end of the line? This is needed for an application to continue running after the first execution.
If it still does not work I'm afraid I cannot be very helpful as I have never used xscreensaver. But I'm sure you'll find a bunch of other people here with experience on this ...  8)
Got it working. Thanks oberon!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 07. September 2015, 21:41:03
Seemed like the decoration would disappear if I restarted fluxbox.
Hm, bad news! :(
This guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLtOtP1PU0) appears to be running Synapse without a problem... I wonder what it can be that causes the trouble for you.

edit: I have just installed Synapse here myself and everything works fine ... ???
Which version are you running, oleerik? Mine is openrc 64bit.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 07. September 2015, 21:50:08
Ended up just removing it and using stjerm :)
Can I ask what the benefit of stjerm is? Why not simply use the fluxbox 'Run program' feature?
The default keybindings include <Alt>+F2 for
Code: [Select]
fbrun -font cantarell-11
:)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 07. September 2015, 21:57:22
The benefit??!
Quake-style drop down terminal of badassness. Nothing beats that!
And, I do believe stjerm really fits in with simple setups like fluxbox and openbox!


Also, I messed up. I mean lxterminal. lx terminal loses its decoration.
If my mind serves me right it only happened when I launched it from the wbar.

EDiT: Oooh, that's synapse. I prefer dmenu over that :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: ChuangTzu on 07. September 2015, 21:59:06
Excellent job Oberon.  Fluxbox is a great and underated WM.  Reminds me of the good old days of early *nix. 
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: ChuangTzu on 07. September 2015, 22:07:24
Macmeister,

As Oberon stated make sure & is included at the end of the line in startup.

Also, if you do not like to see the xscreensaver splash with each login, then add it this way: xscreensaver -no-splash &
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Macmeister on 07. September 2015, 22:13:36
Macmeister,

As Oberon stated make sure & is included at the end of the line in startup.

Also, if you do not like to see the xscreensaver splash with each login, then add it this way: xscreensaver -no-splash &

Thanks ChuangTzu, I'll defnitely kill that splash.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Belemrys on 10. September 2015, 04:13:11
Just installed it and Oberon it is beautiful! Now the question is...show I install the Manjaro i3 spin you made and see if I like it better...I had i3 on my Arch Desktop and I loved it but found myself fighting it more than I should have :/

I bet if I stuck it out i3 would have been amazing for me...the biggest issue was getting the dot files all set up...does your i3 distro have that nicely set up like your fluxbox? If so I might have to install that on my laptop instead of fluxbox!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 10. September 2015, 07:58:53
Hi Belemrys!
Thank you, I'm glad you like it! :)
I bet if I stuck it out i3 would have been amazing for me...the biggest issue was getting the dot files all set up...does your i3 distro have that nicely set up like your fluxbox? If so I might have to install that on my laptop instead of fluxbox!
Sure, everything is preconfigured in i3, too! You'd only have to get used to the keybindings a little, probably, but there is a little pdf included that you can open with mod+Shift+h, listing all the shortcuts.
And if you have seen an .i3/config file before, anyway, I'm sure that will not be a problem for you at all.
I still like using i3 a lot, I am just used to it meanwhile and do a lot of stuff in terminals. So it's often helpful to have several of them open. For that tiling is of course really useful.
On my other laptop I have fluxbox running and I can see myself using that interface fulltime also, no problem. I have meanwhile even installed the customized dmenu of the i3-edition in my fluxbox install (dmenu-manjaro), and configures the keybindings to be almost identical ;) Like that both work perfectly fine for me :D
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: fluffyparrot on 10. September 2015, 21:57:25
Hello Everyone!

I've just (re)discovered Manjaro Fluxbox, and I agree that this new version is great. I'm a former Mint Fluxbox 9 user, and I'm looking for something similar, as the Mint team have dropped its development. In VB, Manjaro-Fluxbox is quite fast, and pleasant to the eye

But I must admit I was a little lost before I found all the programs in the file explorer. I just gave a quick look last evening, and will give a little more time this weekend. I am wondering though about the static menu (right click) : why is it static only? When new applications are added, they are not added automatically to the menu. Also, some Fluxbox options are missing. I did not encouter those "problems" in Mint (though I guess this has something to do with the way Ubuntu handles the menu?). Since MF9 EOL, I used Fedora Kde, with Fluxbox as my main desktop, Fluxbox menu is also unreliable, so I added "fbpanel" at the top to have a full menu that auto-updates. This is not very satisfactory... but does the job.

As for Fluxbox menu, I also use(d) a static menu that contains the most used items (favorite apps / places, links to templates and most used docs, etc...), but one item of the menu is linked to the menu file in "usr" folder so that all the Fluxbox options are easily available and do not overweight the main menu.

One more thing: should not the firewall be activated by default?

I know that these things can easily be done once you know where and how to, but I fear a first time user would be repelled by these details. Anyway, I will give a deeper look later, but so far, this edition seems very promising. Great work!!!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 10. September 2015, 22:13:31
Welcome fluffyparrot and thank you for your feedback!
A good way to update the fb-menu automatically is to install menumaker.
Len demonstrates at the end of his very nice introductory video how it works exactly: https://youtu.be/C1H_cC3c2ng?t=29m30s
Also as an alternative you might like dmenu-manjaro (originating from the tiling world ;) ) which is also extremely light weight and fast. It remembers your last choices, finds all your executable and lists items immediately when you start typing.

Thank you for the firewall tip! I had simply forgotten that. Will fix it with the next update.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 10. September 2015, 22:34:18
One more thing: should not the firewall be activated by default?
My problem is I would not know of a way to change the firewall settings before you have launched gufw for the first time. The default settings is 'off'...
Any idea?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 10. September 2015, 22:44:06
Hmm. Wouldn't enabling the ufw service by default do just that?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 10. September 2015, 22:53:49
Ok. I think I found what I need to know: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uncomplicated_Firewall#Basic_configuration
So. I think a /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf will need to be added and the service enabled in the ISO profile ...
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 00:04:31
hi all,
love the fluxbox look!
but after a successfull install I got a weird fluxbox theme...not the good looking one from the live session!

before I had a manjaro xfce distro, a when I installed the fluxbox version, I just formated the boot and root partition, leaving the home partition alone...

thanks,
ricardo
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 00:20:25
Hmm, sounds strange... Is the checksum of your download ok?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 00:33:50
well,
honestly I never did that...

and I installed a openrc version...

right know I'm going to install a systemd version, let's see!

thanks,
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 00:55:03
same thing...
but with a different look, more like the live but with no background...
and the fluxbox menu has just: xterm, firefox and fluxbox menu...go figure!?

going back to xfce4... :(

really love fluxbox! light and fast!

thanks,


Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: gohlip on 11. September 2015, 01:06:08
before I had a manjaro xfce distro, a when I installed the fluxbox version, I just formated the boot and root partition, leaving the home partition alone...
Your home partition has configuration files of your previous xfce. This may interfere with required configuration  of fluxbox.
Try installing without reusing your xfce /home partition.

Note /home partition contains more than just data. You can reuse if reinstalling the same OS with same DE (desktop environment, like xfce); even so, as an example, you cannot rehash kde4 and kde plasma /home. It will result in a real mess.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 01:06:54
same thing...
but with a different look, more like the live but with no background...
and the fluxbox menu has just: xterm, firefox and fluxbox menu...go figure!?
weirdest thing! I wonder what ISO files you are using?
Firefox is not even installed, and not in the menu either!!
What download link have you been using??
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 01:10:53
Ah, good thinking, gohlip, yes!
That makes sense.
But anyway the menu und theme are determined by files in ~/.fluxbox - so it is still strange...
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: gohlip on 11. September 2015, 01:13:27
He had firefox installed in previous xfce. That remains in new fluxxbox install because he reused /home.
Also if I had to install a Manjaro over a previous Manjaro partition (/), I had to reformat that partition otherwise even previous kernels are maintained even if they are not in new installation. Yes, its wierd. So his firefox app previously installed is there. This results even if I ask installer to format the partition. I needed to format that partition before starting new installation.

We really need to look into Manjaro installers. Had mentioned this before and I do not like to repeat as it may appear more of a criticism than a report. Some people take 'complaints' badly. (I take compliments badly...   ::)  not used to it  ;D )
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 01:19:18
Ah, good thinking, gohlip, yes!
That makes sense.
But anyway the menu und theme are determined by files in ~/.fluxbox - so it is still strange...

exactly, since I had firefox before I think it could show up, but conserning fluxbox...not even the background was showing...

so I have to back up my home partition and do a new install in the whole hdd...maybe later!

thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Belemrys on 11. September 2015, 01:36:54
Yeah, I had issues with the fluxbox menu not showing programs I installed like LibreOffice. I installed i3 manjaro by Oberon and am loving it...although dmenu isnt showing my new installs either...I have to use the dmenu-desktop to find libreoffice and gimp :/
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 01:44:04
What happens if in dmenu you just type libreoffice and hit enter (just ignore if it's not showing up). Is it listed the next time?
Here I don't have that problem. libreoffice is right there immediately.
Do you have the latest dmenu-manjaro installed?
In Fluxbox that's normal. The menu is not dynamic. You will have to either update it manually in ~/.fluxbox/menu or use a utility like menumaker.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: dbVU on 11. September 2015, 13:39:09
Oberon,
Great job with this release! I normally run Xfce/Openbox openrc release your, openrc Fluxbox is very attaractive
and runs great. Thank you for the effort.

db
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 13:52:56
hi all,
finally last night installed systemd fluxbox!
just had to make another partition to create a scratch home partition, and voilá!
everything looks awesome!

just a question, how/where do I invert the scrooling of my mouse?

thanks,
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 11. September 2015, 13:58:06
According to a random google search:

The wheeling direction parameter is located in ./fluxbox/init. So open it with your favourite text editor and modify the following value:
session.screen0.reversewheeling:    true
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 11. September 2015, 15:56:36
In Fluxbox that's normal. The menu is not dynamic. You will have to either update it manually in ~/.fluxbox/menu or use a utility like menumaker.

Really?!  Fluxbox doesn't benefit from menu system similar to Openbox/Obmenu?   :o
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 16:05:07
According to a random google search:

The wheeling direction parameter is located in ./fluxbox/init. So open it with your favourite text editor and modify the following value:
session.screen0.reversewheeling:    true

thanks for the help, but I tried and nothing...looked for the man page of fluxbox and didn't see that option...

thanks,
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 16:26:40
thanks for the help, but I tried and nothing...looked for the man page of fluxbox and didn't see that option...

thanks,
Have you restarted the session? The init file is only processed on login or when you click on "restart" in the fluxbox menu.
Have you tried both values, true and false?
I'm not at my flux-computer right now... will try it out later :)
Stay tuned! ;)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 11. September 2015, 16:30:24
Another possibility:

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xmodmap -e “pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12”
As you can see 5 and 4 has switched spots - which should make scrolling reversed.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 16:36:29
Another possibility:

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xmodmap -e “pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12”
As you can see 5 and 4 has switched spots - which should make scrolling reversed.

sorry, but should I write this on terminal?
it gave me a number of errors...
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oleerik on 11. September 2015, 16:48:22
Code: [Select]
xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12"
Yes, execute that in your terminal.
 Try it again, I think the preview one had some problems.

Works fine for me! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 11. September 2015, 16:51:33
AWESOME!
thanks!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Belemrys on 11. September 2015, 17:18:19
What happens if in dmenu you just type libreoffice and hit enter (just ignore if it's not showing up). Is it listed the next time?
Here I don't have that problem. libreoffice is right there immediately.
Do you have the latest dmenu-manjaro installed?
In Fluxbox that's normal. The menu is not dynamic. You will have to either update it manually in ~/.fluxbox/menu or use a utility like menumaker.

Hey Oberon, I didnt see this advice before I found in the dmenu-manjaro "update-desktop-database" and after running that libreoffice showed up...I am assuming that updates the dmenu to find all of the new packages that have been deemed executable?

Thanks for all the help btw! LOVING how i3 is looking on my old laptop (can be found in ebay for $50!)...will be moving to the i3 forum now!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 11. September 2015, 17:40:57
Ah, good thinking, gohlip, yes!
That makes sense.
But anyway the menu und theme are determined by files in ~/.fluxbox - so it is still strange...
You can use fbmenugen from AUR that way you can use a custom favourites at the top of menu that does not overwrite and it has a regenerate button at the bottom of the menu. if you PM me i can post my setup files as a eg.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: lightbeam on 11. September 2015, 18:10:54
Hey Oberon, I didnt see this advice before I found in the dmenu-manjaro "update-desktop-database" and after running that libreoffice showed up...

Which menu updated?  Fluxbox menu?  Dmenu?  Both?   ???
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 11. September 2015, 18:18:40
Which menu updated?  Fluxbox menu?  Dmenu?  Both?   ???
dmenu! :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Belemrys on 11. September 2015, 19:15:35
dmenu! :)

Yep!
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: cuscotravelservices on 12. September 2015, 03:41:56
Hi Oberon et al,

I still have Windo$e 8.1 Pro and 0.8.10 XFCE installed on my UEFI laptop with Secure Boot disabled. I also have Mate 0.8.10 installed which I don't use and I would replace that with this Fluxbox version.

Just want to check if it's ok for using as a Live USB and installed with the above environment?

It's the OpenRC version that I'm interested in.

Thanks Michael.
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 12. September 2015, 11:17:58
I still have Windo$e 8.1 Pro and 0.8.10 XFCE installed on my UEFI laptop with Secure Boot disabled. I also have Mate 0.8.10 installed which I don't use and I would replace that with this Fluxbox version.
Just want to check if it's ok for using as a Live USB and installed with the above environment?
Should not be a problem. :) Normally the graphical installer Thus will attempt to replace the existing bootloader GRUB. If that fails (depending on which of your manjaro systems own GRUB, Mate or XFCE), go to your XFCE install after fluxbox is installed and do
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sudo update-grub there.
In principal: If any of your existing installs does not show up, don't panic and go to the accessible manjaro system and update GRUB from there!
Good luck! ;) 8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: jason41987 on 12. September 2015, 21:33:13
uuh, i dont think mine came out right, i got a gray background, basic slit, no installed programs showing up in the list, no xterm, not even a web browser.. and it looked so nice and cool on the livecd.. maybe ill try a CLI installation?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 13. September 2015, 14:45:23
Have you tried updating the menu 
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 13. September 2015, 17:15:18
uuh, i dont think mine came out right, i got a gray background, basic slit, no installed programs showing up in the list, no xterm, not even a web browser.. and it looked so nice and cool on the livecd.. maybe ill try a CLI installation?
Hm, sounds strange! Have you verified the checksum of your downloaded ISO? Did you use any unformatted old partitions for installation?
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: jason41987 on 14. September 2015, 06:13:29
checksum was fine, i did a reinstall and it would appear that although i set up the network, it wasnt downloading from the mirrors so i had to adjust the mirror list, update pacman and then the install went smoothly and i got it 100%... curious though why trying to use fluxbox as a complete desktop environment why the menus dont auto update like they do on antix?.. couldnt the command to update menus be added to the end of the pacman or yaourt functions to auto update menus when new softwares installed? would make it more "complete" in my opinion...

another criticism i have is i absolutely do not like NetworkManager, its a heavily gnome based application whos reliability has always seemed spotty at best when used on three different computers (manjaro fluxbox on this one, archlinux on my laptop and manjaro XFCE on a family members computer).. it just seems to me that using wicd instead which seemingly works flawlessly would be a better, more lightweight option

i really do like the default setup though.. ive never used wbar before (always used something like docky) and the wbar is pretty interesting, very minimalistic and it functions just as well and as i try to break from the convention of desktop environments that go out of their way to mimic windows im always looking for new ideas like that
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 14. September 2015, 09:38:18
Hi jason41987 and thank you for your feedback! :)
Networkmanager is still simply the best choice in reliability and user friendliness.
A not working network connection for someone trying a distro for the first time is a huge party pooper  :P
It is not as lightweight as one would wish for a slim release but if you dig a little deeper into the discussions here: It looks like every single maintainer of lightweight systems has come back to nm sooner or later... ;)
Networkmanager does not have a single Gnome dependency so you can not really call it "Gnome-based" only because the app is hosted by the Gnome project.
It's just a good piece of software, and it works for all tasks OOTB and that's crucial for a 'user-friendly' release.
curious though why trying to use fluxbox as a complete desktop environment why the menus dont auto update like they do on antix?.. couldnt the command to update menus be added to the end of the pacman or yaourt functions to auto update menus when new softwares installed? would make it more "complete" in my opinion...
For the next release I will include an option to automatically regenerate the menu plus a backup of my default menu.
I will not be able to leave the creation of the menu completely to auto-generation because the way it is now is really well thought out for the present setup and menumaker and the likes will simply destroy that, very likely adding almost all new applications, yes, but also erasing some of the preconfigured entries...  :-\
mandogd's advice to use fbmenugen also sounds really interesting and I will have a look into that, too :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: yellowbosch on 21. September 2015, 14:57:44
Code: [Select]
xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12"
Yes, execute that in your terminal.
 Try it again, I think the preview one had some problems.

Works fine for me! :)

hi oleerik,
it worked fine until I rebooted the laptop...then it goes to "normal" state...is there a way to put it permanently in the OS?

thanks,
ricardo
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 23. September 2015, 17:54:11
(http://i.imgur.com/dHMhGJhl.png) (http://imgur.com/dHMhGJh)

Go to /home/your name/.config/fbmenugen/schema.pl  this is the part I altered for my Favourites these will stick when you press Regenerate after adding software so that is nice as everything is in one file you can add icons I prefer text

require "$ENV{HOME}/.config/fbmenugen/config.pl";

our $SCHEMA = [
    #          COMMAND             LABEL                ICON
    {item => ['thunar',       'File Manager',      'thunar']},
    {item => ['lxterminal',         'Terminal',          'terminal']},
    {item => ['firefox',      'firefox',       'firefox']},
    {item => ['fbrun',         'Run command',       'system-run']},
    {item => ['leafpad',         'leafpad',       'leafpad']},
    {sep => 'undef'},

This is the bottom half i # out some parts to tidy up the menu added oblogout, shutdown restart, are working but i have not got around to fixing logout  exit works if uncommented


 
    #                  LABEL          ICON
    #{begin_cat => ['My category',  'cat-icon']},
    #             ... some items ...
    #{end_cat   => undef},

    #                  LABEL               ICON
    #{fbmenugen  => ['Fbmenugen',    'preferences-desktop']},
    #{sep        => undef},
    {fluxbox    => ['Fluxbox menu', 'preferences-desktop']},
    #{sep       => undef},
    {regenerate => ['Regenerate',     'gtk-refresh']},

    # This options uses the default Fluxbox action "Exit"
   # {exit      => ['exit',           'exit']},
   {item => ['oblogout',         'shutdown',       'editor']},
   ]


 
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 23. September 2015, 18:21:13
Thanks a lot, mandog!  8)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 23. September 2015, 18:40:09
Thanks a lot, mandog!  8)
I forgot do this in terminal when you install it fbmenugen i think that's the command then after its just the regenerate button
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: ChuangTzu on 24. September 2015, 03:58:32
mandog,

I used to use menumaker for years before discovering fbmenugen, it is a great tool for those that love fluxbox. 

menumaker is still very good for openbox and other WM's, but I prefer fbmenugen for flux.  :)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: Bimbada on 24. September 2015, 10:48:52
Good job @oberon  :)
You 've really improved your skills since your first attempt with i3 release, impressive !
Don't give up mate and thank you for your community work behind the scene ;)
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 24. September 2015, 12:25:50
Thank you, @Bimbada :D
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 24. September 2015, 13:14:59
mandog,

I used to use menumaker for years before discovering fbmenugen, it is a great tool for those that love fluxbox. 

menumaker is still very good for openbox and other WM's, but I prefer fbmenugen for flux.  :)
I was glad when I discovered  fbmenugen it solves the problem of unwanted entries and incomplete entries by the others and easy to edit is the bonus
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: mandog on 25. September 2015, 00:21:34
Oberon
Tidied up the logout, shutdown/restart added spacers  removed logout from /etc/oblogout.


#                  LABEL          ICON
    #{begin_cat => ['My category',  'cat-icon']},
    #             ... some items ...
    #{end_cat   => undef},
    {sep => 'undef'},
    #                  LABEL               ICON
    #{fbmenugen  => ['Fbmenugen',    'preferences-desktop']},
    #{sep        => undef},
    {fluxbox    => ['Fluxbox menu', 'preferences-desktop']},
    #{sep       => undef},
    {regenerate => ['Regenerate',     'gtk-refresh']},
    {sep => 'undef'},
    # This options uses the default Fluxbox action "Exit"
    {exit      => ['logout',           'logout']},
   {item => ['oblogout',         'shutdown',       'shutdown/restart']},
   ]
Title: Re: manjaro-fluxbox 0.8.13.1
Post by: oberon on 25. September 2015, 02:00:39
Thank you mandog! :)
This will be my next task as soon as i3-15.09 is out ;) :P