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Technical Issues and Assistance => Newbie Corner => Topic started by: ringo on 26. October 2014, 14:27:36

Title: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: ringo on 26. October 2014, 14:27:36
Hi,

if you write an forum Post. Be patience.

if you push to Send, trust that is sended intoo forum.
If you are unsure ?

open an second tab and check Recent Topics for your topic. if so close the Tab of your topic you wrote.

it will help a lot with avoid to double post.

wait few second after send to check if it hangs a bit :)

EDIT (ringo32)  :  Add an Rss feeder on the forum will notice stuf from forum also you see your message !
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Seboss666 on 26. October 2014, 16:25:11
Do you have any update on why the website backend is getting so slow, pushing to the 504 timeout error ? (probably a database growth added to some too tight configuration on mysql)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Esclapion on 26. October 2014, 16:47:14
(probably a database growth added to some too tight configuration on mysql)

Can you be more specific, please ?
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: flipper on 26. October 2014, 17:18:41
As long as the issue is not solved, isn't there a way to set a message on top when starting the new topic?
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Seboss666 on 26. October 2014, 17:23:01
Yep. The error points to some of the website infrastructure component getting too slow. If don't know which webserver is used, but for sure, Mysql is the database server behind it. To ensure the site does not get blocked indefinitely, you have a timeout setting that make the website/php engine throws an error (and killing the sub-process) that waits too long for a response From Mysql.

The topic seems created correctly, and it involves multiple tables additions in database tables (at least, smf_topics, smf_messages), if the web server throws the error, it's because MySQL does not respond after the creation, or just after (to show the topic created, it has to launch a "SELECT..." request based on the topic id it just created). It may have appeared after a buggy update on one of the hosting components.

I don't know how to adjust settings, as I don't know the database size, the hosting infrastructure (a dedicated server with all the stuff on it, a shared hosting with web server separated from the database).

As long as the issue is not solved, isn't there a way to set a message on top when starting the new topic?

I bet it should be a good thing to calm down the rush.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: ringo on 26. October 2014, 18:28:58
bit patience are always ok :)

for moment we have to trust we have send things intoo air with one button :)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 18:46:25
Last night "one click" timed-out for me 5 or 6 times.
Today, after a couple more 504's, i managed to make two posts (one being a duplicate) and another 504 but not one message saying my post(s) had been made.
The only reason i stopped re-entering my post was because i had opened a new tab and noticed there were two posts ... yet before i had clicked refresh there were no posts!
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Ponder on 04. April 2015, 18:50:03
Last night "one click" timed-out for me 5 or 6 times.

The only reason i stopped re-entering my post was because i had opened a new tab and noticed there were two posts ... yet before i had clicked refresh there were no posts!

Opening an new tab and checking posts is the only way I have found to determine for certain that my post made it.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 18:51:45
p.s.
Why not simply let user delete their own posts?  Probably best if only for the first 5 or 10 minutes.
If you did that, when a user saw they had made a duplicate post they could delete it.

Just a thought form a noobie.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: flipper on 04. April 2015, 18:53:10
If you start a new topic you will always get the 504 error, it's a bug with the db on the forum. It doesn't happen when you make replies on a topic.
After posting wait until the error and browse manually to your topic again, it will be there.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: ringo on 04. April 2015, 18:59:46
just simple , if you post you see a delay  , click on unread and you see your topic :)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 19:02:38
Opening an new tab and checking posts is the only way I have found to determine for certain that my post made it.
Or, in my case, two posts.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: conky57 on 04. April 2015, 19:06:43
If you get 504 timeout, do NOT resend. Check forum to see if your post appears, if not ONLY then resend.
Works for me. :)


Best regards.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 19:08:12
If you start a new topic you will always get the 504 error, it's a bug with the db on the forum. It doesn't happen when you make replies on a topic.
After posting wait until the error and browse manually to your topic again, it will be there.
Sorry but that is exactly what i did each time i posted last night (and again today) and each time it was not there and i had to re-type it.  On the third attempt i typed the post into an editor then pasted it.  After all, i was a noob here and for all i knew, posting was some sort of typing speed test.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 19:13:20
If you get 504 timeout, do NOT resend. Check forum to see if your post appears, if not ONLY then resend.
Works for me. :)
As i said, i DID check the forum then, when it wasn't there, i re-posted.  Low and behold, when i refreshed, there were two posts.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: conky57 on 04. April 2015, 19:17:49
As i said, i DID check the forum then, when it wasn't there, i re-posted.  Low and behold, when i refreshed, there were two posts.

That method has always worked for me, in my experience when the timeout happens, the post is there when I check. I have never had to repost in my recollection......strange.


Best regards.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 19:20:38
Why not simply allow users to delete there own posts?  (for the first 5 or 10 mins)
Most people tend to check their posts to see if they look ok, etc.  If they had made a duplicate they would see it and resolve the issue.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 04. April 2015, 19:23:37
That method has always worked for me, in my experience when the timeout happens, the post is there when I check. I have never had to repost in my recollection......strange.
Best regards.
Or i'm just very unlucky ...
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: conky57 on 04. April 2015, 19:51:21
Or i'm just very unlucky ...
I don't believe in luck.  ;)


Best regards.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 05. April 2015, 12:40:16
I think the guy who's had two big wins on the Lottery might disagree m8  :)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: conky57 on 05. April 2015, 13:33:22
I think the guy who's had two big wins on the Lottery might disagree m8  :)
If you buy a ticket, there's a probability that you may will....still don't believe it's luck. Many ppl lose, some few win. ;)

Best regards.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 05. April 2015, 14:32:25
probability
i would have said infinitesimal possibility  :)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: conky57 on 05. April 2015, 14:48:37
i would have said infinitesimal possibility  :)
Agreed, better possibility of being struck by lightning I believe. Indeed, many ppl are struck by lightning....some multiple times even. ;)


Best regards.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Marv on 05. April 2015, 18:35:52
Nice talking to you.
Best regards,
Marvin
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: jyrki on 26. June 2015, 14:54:11
wish had seen this before double posting....
sorry for what it's worth
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: Esclapion on 26. June 2015, 14:57:55
wish had seen this before double posting....
sorry for what it's worth

Don't worry, the support team has the habit now and removes that.  ;)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: quantumpresence on 07. July 2015, 00:08:29
Hi,

The same thing as Marv happened to me, I got a timeout from the page and then, I saw two posts after refresh.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: fraterchaos on 10. September 2015, 03:20:28
there is a simple way to avoid any and all double posting...

instead of simply clicking the "New Post" button, right click it and choose "Open in new tab" (assuming your browsers supports that, which as far as I know, ALL the current Linux Browsers do)

When the new tab opens, enter your post and click the post button.

Now switch back to the original tab and refresh the page, you WILL see your new post, and then you can simply close the tab where you entered it.

I ALWAYS use this method of posting, and I NEVER have any double posts, because I know if it posted or not (it always DOES post, but doesn't always show the new post unless you refresh)


And assuming that under some rare circumstance. you go back to the original tab and refresh and your new post ISN'T there, well the new tab you opened should still be open, and you can try again, without having to re-type anything... (although I have never had that happen in all my posts)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: FateRaines on 05. October 2015, 20:36:42
yeah  double Posting bad i saw guy  posted up 5 times on one topic  ;)
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: dedanna1029 on 16. November 2015, 00:39:55
I'm curious as to why this is still an issue.

I am a newbie to the forum. How are noobs supposed to know that this issue exists, unless they scan the forum first (which generally they don't) for this thread? This happened to me.

I noticed when I just saw and read this thread that the first post was made over a year ago, yet the issue still remains. Is it a matter of needing help with the forum, its server, or something? If so I suggest a forum crowdfund because this really needs to be fixed.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: ringo on 16. November 2015, 09:14:59
I'm curious as to why this is still an issue.

I am a newbie to the forum. How are noobs supposed to know that this issue exists, unless they scan the forum first (which generally they don't) for this thread? This happened to me.

I noticed when I just saw and read this thread that the first post was made over a year ago, yet the issue still remains. Is it a matter of needing help with the forum, its server, or something? If so I suggest a forum crowdfund because this really needs to be fixed.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks!

yeah :)  Working hard on new structures. , still was during too long , it can happend :)

but Hopefull soon we have new stuf! patience can always be ok.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: AdityaPatil on 16. November 2015, 14:47:44
So what exactly is the problem? if the server is unable to take the load, then maybe some crowd funding will help as dedanna1029 said. If it is problem with the code of the forum, I am sure you could get some help from other linux forums maintainers like from Ubuntu forums or linuxquestions.
Title: Re: [Manjaro Post] Possibility to avoid double Post.
Post by: ringo on 17. November 2015, 02:29:54
probably some extentions, for moment. we leave this way, is anoying i know... i hope between now and a month of 2 will change..atleast i hope, there is some plans from scratch on his way..