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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #45 on: 27. January 2014, 12:35:50 »
Well, we could try to remove the whole 3.x series, as suspend-resume is broken in these :) Anyway, 1-2 newest lts series + 2-3 newest short term support kernels, thats whats gona happen.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #46 on: 11. February 2014, 03:10:17 »
3.13 and 3.10, only problem is the nvidia driver for 3.13

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #47 on: 14. February 2014, 17:44:59 »
I think you guys should maintain at least ONE really old kernel for support of older video cards such as the Radeon HD 4000 series from AMD/ATI ( (Radeon HD 4000 series only support up to the 3.4 kernel and Xorg 1.12).). This way you will support both older computers and new, rather than just newer hardware.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #48 on: 14. February 2014, 17:51:10 »
I think you guys should maintain at least ONE really old kernel for support of older video cards such as the Radeon HD 4000 series from AMD/ATI ( (Radeon HD 4000 series only support up to the 3.4 kernel and Xorg 1.12).). This way you will support both older computers and new, rather than just newer hardware.

No one distro does it. And the free driver for legacy cards are now probably better than the Catalyst.
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #49 on: 14. February 2014, 17:54:21 »
I think you guys should maintain at least ONE really old kernel for support of older video cards such as the Radeon HD 4000 series from AMD/ATI ( (Radeon HD 4000 series only support up to the 3.4 kernel and Xorg 1.12).). This way you will support both older computers and new, rather than just newer hardware.

opensource drivers are the same level of catalyst and maintain by opensource amd devs opengl 3.3 is ready in mesa 10.1 git

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #50 on: 14. February 2014, 19:54:42 »
Hi All,

i'have vote kernel 3.10.xxx LTS the best for me for my personal applications use.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #51 on: 15. February 2014, 14:15:01 »
No one distro does it. And the free driver for legacy cards are now probably better than the Catalyst.
Ohh,  I did not know this. Do the free drivers support any version of xorg/catalyst or do they have the limits also like catalyst.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #52 on: 15. February 2014, 14:31:11 »
For me, the free drivers are absolutely different of the proprietary drivers, because an important part of them are included in the kernel. So, they progress with him, without new installation.
Consequently, the last free drivers are a lot more efficient (Mantle support, etc...) as the previous one.
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #53 on: 15. February 2014, 14:56:32 »
Ohh,  I did not know this. Do the free drivers support any version of xorg/catalyst or do they have the limits also like catalyst.

the free drivers (especially for intel and amd cards) feel much more organic in linux than the proprietary drivers.

just try them. you can easily change between them in the manjaro settings...
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #54 on: 15. February 2014, 20:04:52 »
Ohh,  I did not know this. Do the free drivers support any version of xorg/catalyst or do they have the limits also like catalyst.

your gcn/si card need some work with free drivers, and 2d performance is bad, but is improving a lot.

last benchs

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_2014gallium&num=1
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #55 on: 18. February 2014, 11:46:14 »
May I ask why kernel 3.11, which is stated to be eol at the kernel.org page is available in the poll, while kernel 3.12 which seems to be alive and kicking is not available?
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #56 on: 18. February 2014, 11:51:34 »
Hi :)

Some people coming from Ubuntu consider  it  as a LTS, because it is a bit maintained there. But yes, from the point-of-view of the kernel team, it is an EOL.
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #57 on: 18. February 2014, 12:12:32 »
This does not answer my question: Why is 3.11 available in the poll, but 3.12 is not?
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #58 on: 18. February 2014, 12:16:21 »
This answers for the 3.11. The 3.12 is not there because it is not the last and will soon be EOL also.
When the 3.14 will be released, the 3.13 will slowly disappears also.

For me, one LTS and the last stable is a good solution.
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #59 on: 18. February 2014, 12:24:10 »
May I ask why kernel 3.11, which is stated to be eol at the kernel.org page is available in the poll, while kernel 3.12 which seems to be alive and kicking is not available?
J.
This does not answer my question: Why is 3.11 available in the poll, but 3.12 is not?
The answer is because the 3.11 kernel is being maintained by people who are not directly connected to kernel.org, so it can not be used as a source of information relating to the 3.11 series kernel that is being offered by Manjaro.

The 3.11 kernel we offer is the one that Canonical maintains for their Ubuntu 13.10 release. (Just like our 3.8 kernel is the one Canonical maintains for their 12.04 LTS Ubuntu release)
Canonical's patchwork to this kernel is not specific to Ubuntu. It addresses general security and bugs.

The 3.12 kernel however has not been picked up by any 3rd parties for maintenance, and as such is on it's way out.
Though the 3.13 kernel is a mess, so 3.12 may well see maintenance from kernel.org for longer than usual, which is probably why it's not been officially marked as "EOL" on kernel.org.
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