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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #60 on: 20. February 2014, 23:23:07 »
The answer is because the 3.11 kernel is being maintained by people who are not directly connected to kernel.org, so it can not be used as a source of information relating to the 3.11 series kernel that is being offered by Manjaro.

The 3.11 kernel we offer is the one that Canonical maintains for their Ubuntu 13.10 release. (Just like our 3.8 kernel is the one Canonical maintains for their 12.04 LTS Ubuntu release)
Canonical's patchwork to this kernel is not specific to Ubuntu. It addresses general security and bugs.

The 3.12 kernel however has not been picked up by any 3rd parties for maintenance, and as such is on it's way out.
Though the 3.13 kernel is a mess, so 3.12 may well see maintenance from kernel.org for longer than usual, which is probably why it's not been officially marked as "EOL" on kernel.org.

nvidia already working with 3.13.

kernel 3.13.3 no problems untill now

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #61 on: 24. February 2014, 17:11:54 »
I am using a somewhat new laptop (yoga 2 pro) and was curious about weather or not the new version that just came out yesterday would boot with the default kernel so I downloaded the iso and low and behold it still won't boot with a 3.10 kernel. Tried the acpi_backlight=vendor grub boot option but even that won't work. For all the new tech out there that will not boot with even the latest LTS kernel what are a users options for installing manjaro? Why does this distro not ship with the latest kernel and allow the user to install the LTS kernel if they choose? Does manjroiso work on other distro's? The only option I now see is installing manjaroiso and rolling my own with the latest kernel just to get a working copy with the latest.

 

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #62 on: 25. February 2014, 20:25:01 »
Here's a KDE spin with 3.12 instead of 3.10:

@CarlosMosca:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarodev/files/users/korrode/0.8.9-linux312/

See if that works and let us know. :)

If you need 3.13 or smth like that (in whatever DE) - ask the team, Rob and philm seem to be most active on the forums.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #63 on: 27. February 2014, 13:49:57 »
3.12 is the best choice for current hardware,
3.13 suffers from regressions when it comes to file systems due to the redesigned block layer

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #64 on: 27. February 2014, 13:59:37 »
Which 3.13 ? Now, we have the 3.13.5, and it's less true.
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #65 on: 27. February 2014, 14:07:09 »
Hi All,

I'm vote for the kernel 3.10 LTS because for me and my work it's the best solution, but if the community prefer the progress develop for 3.13.x  i adapt for it.   :)

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #66 on: 27. February 2014, 14:49:18 »
I'm vote for the kernel 3.10 LTS because for me and my work it's the best solution, but if the community prefer the progress develop for 3.13.x  i adapt for it.   :)
3.10 isn't going anywhere any time soon. Almost certainly it will be with us for 6+ months yet. :)

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #67 on: 27. February 2014, 14:55:36 »
3.10 isn't going anywhere any time soon. Almost certainly it will be with us for 6+ months yet. :)

Hi Rob,

this is a very good notice,  :)

thanks very much.

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #68 on: 27. February 2014, 15:15:29 »
I'm just wondering about the people with fairly new hardware that can't boot the install disk because the kernel is too old. But when they boot Arch or Antergos it works fine because they ship with the latest. Do you think new users would be lost or put off due to this? Granted this community is awesome and someone will spin you up a disk but isn't that kind of inconvenient for all? 

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #69 on: 27. February 2014, 15:24:15 »
I'm just wondering about the people with fairly new hardware that can't boot the install disk because the kernel is too old. But when they boot Arch or Antergos it works fine because they ship with the latest. Do you think new users would be lost or put off due to this? Granted this community is awesome and someone will spin you up a disk but isn't that kind of inconvenient for all?

Although not that easily findable for new users, i did put up a couple of ISO's using the 3.12 kernel.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarodev/files/users/korrode/0.8.9-linux312/

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #70 on: 27. February 2014, 15:30:19 »
Damn, 3.12 is my kernel and it's not part of the choice...

Is nvidia non-free drivers working with 3.13 now?

It's strange to see you named Rob Korrode...

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #71 on: 27. February 2014, 15:33:39 »
whoawhoawhoawhoawhoa

I just looked at kernel.org and 3.12 has been picked up by a known & capable kernel dev (Jiri Slaby) for longterm support!

https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/26/596

Expect it to be around for a while. :D
« Last Edit: 27. February 2014, 15:52:45 by Rob »

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #72 on: 27. February 2014, 15:38:23 »
I was there on kernel.org ago 15 ' and I have not noticed anything.  :o

Great news, thank you.  ;)
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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #73 on: 27. February 2014, 16:02:23 »
Does this mean that the next release will come with the 3.12 LTS kernel?

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Re: Vote for your Kernel(s) to be kept!
« Reply #74 on: 27. February 2014, 17:36:03 »
Does this mean that the next release will come with the 3.12 LTS kernel?
Can't answer that until we start assessing kernel options closer to the next release, but it's certainly possible.